[Nifster]

Yes indeed....I too recovered.

But you and I both know the statistics aren’t good

Consequences can make you sick and tired of being sick and tired

[JennysCool]

You guys know the drill. Been through this with my (late) brother and some (late) friends. The one common denominator I always saw was they had literally no ambition for anything but getting high. Smart people, too, but not wired for working, subsisting, supporting themselves. Always looking to friends and relatives to provide the very sustenance for life. A lot of sleeping, TV watching, music listening. Especially music listening. Almost hard-wired not to be self-sustaining. And not caring if they were or not.

It's ridiculously hard to deal with people on this level. I have heard success stories, but the recidivism rate in them is great. It just strikes me that there will ALWAYS be a percentage of people who just don't buy, at all, the "normal" life we take for granted, and use their (sometimes very advanced) wits and wiles to "raise" themselves "above" it. It's a mystery to me. They just never seem to get "in gear" to live the life that has been granted them.