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New political survey finds US is increasingly 'two nations in one'
Phys Org ^ | October 13, 2016 | Jane Kelly

Posted on 10/13/2016 6:29:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: cincinnati65

Nope. Just two.

Urban US vs rural / suburban US.

If the differences were regional, we’d already be shooting. But they are not. Our enemies are just a few miles down the highway or the interstate, not up North or down South.


21 posted on 10/13/2016 6:50:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: BenLurkin

Parasite and host.


22 posted on 10/13/2016 6:55:21 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait until all those mussie rapeugees start naming their enclaves and replacing state names.


23 posted on 10/13/2016 6:57:44 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: Little Ray
Urban US vs rural / suburban US.

Which explains WHY Obama is using HUD to force Section 8 into the suburbs.


24 posted on 10/13/2016 6:58:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When have we not been two nations in one outside of WW2 or the 1980s?


25 posted on 10/13/2016 6:58:53 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: BlueStateRightist

Definitely. It’s much more civilized than the horrible civil war that alot of people are instinctively fearing.


26 posted on 10/13/2016 6:59:40 AM PDT by Claud
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To: kosciusko51
Well, that has been going on since at least ‘92.

No disagreement

27 posted on 10/13/2016 7:01:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are one serious political mistake from a Civil War. JMHO!


28 posted on 10/13/2016 7:01:52 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two Nations: One ascendant, one decadent.

If we divide America into two nations:

The Ascendant Nation will soar into glory, joy, prosperity, strength, morality, liberty, justice for all, and greatness. The American Dream will continue to fulfill itself!

The decadent nation will continue its descent into a hell-hole of misery, weakness, poverty, immorality, lies, corruption, totalitarianism, intolerance, injustice, violence, rot and decay.


29 posted on 10/13/2016 7:02:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Trump is the Resistance! Vive la résistance!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 posts and no one points out the elephant in the room: millions of Spanish speaking people changing the face of the country into something unrecognizable (well, you’d recognize it if you simply crossed the border at Nogales)?

Two nations? Yeah: Mexico being forced on America.

The Bolshevik gangsters are just being buttressed by the illegals, who are their army. Absent the mass influx of the last 40 years, the Left would have shrunk to insignificance as they aborted and contracepted themselves out of existence.


30 posted on 10/13/2016 7:02:19 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two Nations: One ascendant, one decadent.

If we divide America into two nations:

The Ascendant Nation will soar into glory, joy, prosperity, strength, morality, liberty, justice for all, and greatness. The American Dream will continue to fulfill itself!

The decadent nation will continue its descent into a hell-hole of misery, weakness, poverty, immorality, lies, corruption, totalitarianism, intolerance, injustice, violence, rot and decay.


31 posted on 10/13/2016 7:02:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Trump is the Resistance! Vive la résistance!)
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To: JPJones

You ask, “Yeah, why is that?”

Now in retirement with too much time on my hands, I’ve given some thought to that question, and here are my thoughts on the subject:

Survival of the Unfit

Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution (often referred to as The Theory of Survival of the Fittest) describes the positive effects resulting from any “pressure” on an animal species that removes the least fit among the species and allows only the most fit of the species to reproduce. Many of us are well aware of this “Survival of the Fittest” theory, but few are aware that Darwin also makes mention of the negative effects resulting from unlimited reproduction of a species’ least fit when the weak, the lazy, and the stupid are left unchecked.

We like to think otherwise, but our species, Homo sapiens-sapiens, isn’t that long “out of the trees” and the same laws of nature that affect all of God’s creatures apply equally to us. If we were to observe any other species that had been allowed to reproduce without limitations, we would know immediately what the consequences will be.

Whenever the weak; lazy; and stupid of a species are allowed to reproduce unimpeded by predators that feed off the weak; lazy; and stupid, they soon outnumber the strong, productive, and intelligent. When the weak/lazy/stupid dominate the gene pool, the entire population becomes weak/ lazy/stupid, and then the population collapses.

In the past, when these collapses occurred within human populations, they have been referred to as a “Malthusian Collapse.” Thomas Malthus, a Nineteenth Century Economist, thought these collapses were caused simply because past civilizations had reached a point where human populations could no longer produce sufficient food supplies to feed themselves, but he never pinned down the exact reason for the food shortages.

I now think some of these collapses of past human civilizations may have occurred when the unproductive weak/lazy/stupid greatly outnumbered the strong/productive/intelligent of the population. In other words, the majority of the population became too lazy to perform the work necessary to provide for themselves and what was left of the strong/productive/intelligent refused to continue to do it for them.

These collapses have occurred at frequent intervals throughout human history, and Western Civilization is, in my humble opinion, currently on the cusp of one of these collapses.

D.J. Taylor


32 posted on 10/13/2016 7:05:01 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“whites are twice as likely as blacks and Hispanics to be very distrustful of the government on a variety of measures”

Do black folks not realize that police are the armed government?


33 posted on 10/13/2016 7:06:17 AM PDT by all the best
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are a house divided against itself, and all that that implies.

Russia knows their time to act is short. As does China.


34 posted on 10/13/2016 7:07:50 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: BlueStateRightist

I think you have it backwards. The left on the left and the right on the right.


35 posted on 10/13/2016 7:09:17 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Little Ray
Right. In Brazil, the southern third is mostly European, and more prosperous than the rest of the country. There was just a plebiscite on secession there, which I think won handily.
36 posted on 10/13/2016 7:09:18 AM PDT by brianr10 (I'm more equal than everyone.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was just talking with my teenage son about this. We are a nation split in half with almost no common ground. It’s at the point of absurdity:

Surely we can agree that stabbing a baby just weeks from delivery in the head and sucking it’s brain out before ripping it from the womb is wrong.

Nope...they want that.

Well at least we know that teaching young elementary children that anal sex is normal and healthy shouldn’t happen.

Nope...they want that.

How about enforcing the immigration laws on the books to protect us all from terrorists who may sneak in?

Nope...that’s racist.

Keeping the second amendment?

Too dangerous.

First amendment for everyone?

Too hateful.


37 posted on 10/13/2016 7:09:24 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: VanDeKoik

9/12/2001


38 posted on 10/13/2016 7:21:44 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A lot of the credit goes to Obama, the Great Uniter Divider.
39 posted on 10/13/2016 7:21:54 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: NorthstarMom
Fair points, all.

I'm hoping for a 3rd party to come along. America is getting wound so tight that something is bound to fracture. Politics is the least critical piece of our country, so if that's what breaks, we'll be the best off.

Secession would likely be the worst.

Though, I've a different opinion than many here on FR - I think that the liberal states (Northeast Corridor, maybe West Coast) will secede, rather than Texas, Mississippi, et al.

Why? Liberals are easier to herd and arrogant enough to think that they'd be better off without "Flyover Country".

Only way conservative, red states get out is if they're forced out by the Feddle Gov't. Which is a possibility too, but a little less likely. Herding Conservatives is like herding cats, and all but the most radical of them realize what was posted upthread - the enemy isn't only a Hipster Dirtbag from Manhattan, but also just up the road in your closest city.

Just my $0.02. YMMV.

40 posted on 10/13/2016 7:28:01 AM PDT by wbill
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