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1 posted on 12/31/2016 12:48:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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With that long, cold Canada winter night, farmers will love that light bill.


2 posted on 12/31/2016 12:59:48 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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There should be plenty of available warehouse space in Alberta, and even more coming onto the market! With Premier Nnutley’s beloved carbon tax starting tomorrow, gas has already hit $1.10/ litre, up from 92¢/ litre on Monday, and the price is expected to go even higher. The tax, at $20/ tonne of CO2, will be yet another kick at our economy. Well done comrade Nutley! Between you and Turd-owe, you make Obloviate look like a piker, at killing an economy!


3 posted on 12/31/2016 1:08:38 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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Crazy as the idea sounds, if they can improve the technology so we can get high quality tasty vegetables out of these hydroponic farms, the advantages are obvious:

1. Highly controlled growing environment with very little need for expensive herbicides, insecticides and possibly a lot less fertilizer usage.
2. Harvests 10 to 20 times per year.
3. Very low transportation costs, since we don't have to ship the harvested food hundreds to thousands of miles.
4. A lot less need for massive amounts of land for farms.

The technology is not completely mature, but once it does, imagine just about all your vegetables truly available fresh essentially year-round locally.

9 posted on 12/31/2016 1:42:52 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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“If vertical farming in urban centres becomes the norm, then one anticipated long-term benefit would be the gradual repair of many of the world’s damaged ecosystems

If vertical farming becomes the normal way to produce vegetables it will lead to much faster closing off of the King's Forest to common people. Most of the world will become the preserve only of the Elite. The UN has envisioned that and the USA has been working to put it all into effect. Private property in the USA has already mostly ceased to exist with government units able to confiscate land and everything else just because a bureaucrat wants it. All he has to do is get a LEA to allege that a crime has been committed in proximity to the property desired and the police or any other agency can then seize the property for whatever use is in mind. Technically the "owner" can retrieve the property but he has to put up a surety bond to some percentage of the imputed value of the seized property then prove it has never ever been used in connection with anything illegal.

10 posted on 12/31/2016 1:43:28 PM PST by arthurus
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We owe all of this to Nancy Reagan.

Without the WOD and just say no, cannabis growers would still be growing outdoors, and most of the technology to grow indoors would not exist.

11 posted on 12/31/2016 1:56:34 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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At only double the price of imported produce. But Canadian Content laws will force them to eat it.


13 posted on 12/31/2016 1:58:46 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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What possible hindrances would keep them from growing crops inside old abandoned mines. Could there be artificial light brought in to give photosynthesis to plants and grow all year long, underground....


17 posted on 12/31/2016 2:03:47 PM PST by rovenstinez
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Here is a video of my builds of lettuce towers worked very nice this summer. I would like to move it indoors but don’t get enough light upstairs. I have two thousand watt bulbs but they can run up the electric bill. Still might get it hooked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7es8JNaflA


19 posted on 12/31/2016 2:07:06 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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We watched a show called Homestead Rescue where the rescue team went to a Montana homestead high in the mountains. They excavated a south-facing embankment and created a log greenhouse with a rear rock wall which collected solar energy during the day and warmed the plants at night to keep them from freezing. Reminded me of the earthship concept.


20 posted on 12/31/2016 2:29:05 PM PST by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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Iceland I understand, has grown its own food in volcanic springs warmed greenhouses for years, at least since the sixties.


22 posted on 12/31/2016 2:52:49 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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The lighting will cost a fortune, burning a 1000w light for every 10 sq. ft. LED lighting is in its infancy, expensive, & not very efficient. High Pressure Sodium, probably the most efficient artificial lighting on the market, is very hot, requiring A/C to keep the plants cool, yet the building will probably need to be heated in the winter.

Temperature control is critical, yet potentially costly. A well insulated growing space is required, along with expensive climate control systems. An old steel mill is probably a climate control nightmare.

And growing indoors does not guarantee a pest free crop. Tightly spaced plants are a magnet for bugs. The bugs will find your crop, indoors or outside, so pesticides will be needed despite the optimistic claims. Indoor Hydroponic growers have been using all manner of pesticides since the hobby began.

These vegetables will be very expensive.


25 posted on 12/31/2016 3:19:55 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Holmes on Homes tv show with Mike Holmes repaired a house that had indoor harvest of marijuana plants.
The police before the repair had raided the place after the crooks er... farmers tapped the high voltage lines for the grow lights and the power company noticed.


35 posted on 12/31/2016 4:41:55 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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“The re-growth of hardwood forests could play a significant role in carbon sequestration and may help reverse current trends in global climate change.”

Huh? Are we boiling everything down to climate change.


41 posted on 01/01/2017 2:28:05 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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