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ObamaCare repeal narrowly passes major House committee hurdle
HotAir ^ | March 16, 2017 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/16/2017 9:53:15 AM PDT by Trump20162020

Paul Ryan got what he wanted from the House Budget Committee — but also got a warning shot across the bow as well. The American Health Care Act (AHCA) passed on a narrow vote, but not before Republican conservatives offered some resistance to it.

The final vote may have been a managed outcome. Kasie Hunt explains that they expected more debate today in the committee and had counted four Republicans on the panel as against the AHCA or leaning toward a no. Four Republican defections would have resulted in a tie, but a plea from the chair may have made the difference:

The Budget Committee vote was 19 to 17, with three conservative Republicans – Representatives David Brat, Gary Palmer and Mark Sanford – joining the panel’s Democrats in voting against it. The committee brought together provisions approved last week by two other panels into a single bill, helping pave the way for a later vote on the House floor.

Before the vote, Republican Representative Diane Black, who heads the committee, called the legislation “the conservative healthcare vision that we have been talking about for years.” To Republicans who are wavering, she said, “don’t cut off the discussion” by voting no. “Stay in this effort,” she said.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: davidbrat; garypalmer; marksanford; obamacare; repeal; rinocarebill; ryancare
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1 posted on 03/16/2017 9:53:15 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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2 posted on 03/16/2017 9:56:28 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Trump20162020
ObamaCare repeal narrowly passes major House committee hurdle

Bogus headline. Ryancare is not a repaeal of obamacare.

3 posted on 03/16/2017 10:01:01 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Trump20162020

“Representatives David Brat, Gary Palmer and Mark Sanford”

Well, at least 3 out of 22 Republicans were willing to go on record as wanting more limited government.


4 posted on 03/16/2017 10:06:31 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Trump20162020

I am proud to be represented by Dave Brat.
Good for Mark Sanders and Gary Palmer as well.
Ryancare is a rearranging of Obamacare, not a repeal.


5 posted on 03/16/2017 10:08:27 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: pgkdan

The committee:

Diane Black, Tennessee, Chair
Tom Price, Georgia
Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida
Tom Cole, Oklahoma
Tom McClintock, California
Todd Rokita, Indiana
Rob Woodall, Georgia
Mark Sanford, South Carolina
Steve Womack, Arkansas
Dave Brat, Virginia
Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin
Gary Palmer, Alabama
Bruce Westerman, Arkansas
Jim Renacci, Ohio
Bill Johnson, Ohio
Jason Lewis, Minnesota
Jack Bergman, Michigan
John Faso, New York
Lloyd Smucker, Pennsylvania
Matt Gaetz, Florida
Jodey Arrington, Texas
Drew Ferguson, Georgia


6 posted on 03/16/2017 10:11:49 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Trump20162020
From the very beginning all I was hearing from congress was repeal obamacare this, and repeal obamacare that...

I only remember repeal being said.

Then somewhere along the way, replace was slipped in there.

Was congress voting on replacements to Obamacare all along?
7 posted on 03/16/2017 10:14:00 AM PDT by novemberslady
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How can you replace what you never get rid of?

Aren't you just putting lipstick on the democrat's pig?
8 posted on 03/16/2017 10:16:03 AM PDT by novemberslady
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"Bogus headline. Ryancare is not a repeal of obamacare.",p>I came here to express that thought, but you beat me to it...

Heard this description on the radio the other day, and think it should stick:

Repeal & replace? It's more like 'Renege and rename...'

9 posted on 03/16/2017 10:17:48 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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And if you put that much effort into dressing up the democrat’s pig, does that mean you guys are going steady?


10 posted on 03/16/2017 10:17:57 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Trump20162020; pgkdan; Lurkinanloomin; novemberslady

I read every page of the Obamacare Lite bill. I like the idea that it revokes taxes. Restoring the deductibility of medical expenses would be a better alternative than paying the local bank to take care of your money until you need it. However, for me the most insidious part of Obamacare remains that it destroys personal freedoms.

Obamacare began with his stimulus bill creating the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology and the Health Information Technology Research Centers. Passage of HR 3962 and Senate legislation exploded this micro-management of citizen lives by adding 100 new boards, commissions, and programs. For example, a new Medicare Commission, exempt from judicial review, will unilaterally write rules about utilization and pricing of medical devices and drugs often needed by surgeons. The Independent Payment Advisory Board will make decisions about allowable level of Medicare funding for therapies.

The result of all these bureaucracies is rationing healthcare, which is popularly called “Death Panels”. Rationing means government not reducing, but refusing to pay costs. Bureaucrats now have tools to control chronically ill, elderly, and disabled people. I believe both the Republicans and Democrats love the idea that in perpetuity voters must go to them hat in hand for accommodations to these rules.

The above analysis convinces me that this mess is so harmful in this and so many ways, that the only cure is complete repeal coupled with simultaneous passage of bills not more than five pages long and written in the Arial font with 12 pitch. These bills would salvage the few legitimate thoughts existing and address the host of ways in which government intrusion into delivery of health care/insurance prevents citizens, instead of bureaucrats, from controlling decisions.

There is no alternative to total repeal of Obamacare. This administrative law and associated rules attack our Bill of Rights by confiscating speech and religious freedoms, personal life without access to courts and trial, and Ninth Amendment personal freedoms guaranteed, but not enumerated by our Constitution.”

The “Costs” of Medical Care http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2009/11/03/the-costs-of-medical-care-n1088569

ObamaCare ‘death panel’ faces growing opposition from Democrats http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats

Why We Must Ration Health Care http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

RAW DATA: GOP List of New ‘Bureaucracies’ in House Health Care Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/02/raw-data-gop-list-new-bureaucracies-house-health-care/

Text HR 3200 for GOP List of ‘Bureaucracies’ http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200rh/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200rh.pdf

Health Care Bill H.R. 3590 Thomas(library of congress) Signed By Obama http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf

Republicans release more complex Obamacare chart http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003844/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/jul/28/republicans-release-new-more-complex-obamacare-cha/


11 posted on 03/16/2017 10:37:32 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: novemberslady
I was of the thought of replace and repeal - but now thinking isn't repeal enough for now? We would just go back to pre-Obama care. Not so bad. Worry about a replacement at some other date.
12 posted on 03/16/2017 10:39:06 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Trump20162020

It’s likely DOA on the House floor. In the Senate Cruz, Lee and Paul will kill it off.


13 posted on 03/16/2017 10:39:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Retain Mike

I completely agree. It is all that federal infrastructure and agencies and most importantly the power that control of health care decision and records gives them that they are trying to preserve in RINOcare.


14 posted on 03/16/2017 10:43:01 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: novemberslady

Replace has ALWAYS been in Trump’s message. Repeal was plain ole Republican rhetoric. And they always touted they would come up with something...


15 posted on 03/16/2017 10:43:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: novemberslady

They won’t be just putting lipstick on the Democrat’s pig, they will be strapping it on so tightly that when it fails it will be their fault.


16 posted on 03/16/2017 10:45:09 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DJ Frisat
Repeal & replace? It's more like 'Renege and rename...'

That, my FRiend, is banner material.

17 posted on 03/16/2017 10:45:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

The problem is that the “pre-Obamacare” health care system has been destroyed and there’s no way to put it back together again fast enough to go cold turkey on simply repeal without (temporary) replacement.

I think the best thing is to accept this but keep their feet to the fire on doing what the bill actually claims to do, that is, staging out Obamacare within the next three years and then “replacing” it with structural changes in the health payment and health care delivery system.


18 posted on 03/16/2017 10:48:46 AM PDT by livius
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Woodall is my rep. A good little leadership pawn.


19 posted on 03/16/2017 11:51:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Cantorize him in 2018. Start looking for a candidate now.


20 posted on 03/16/2017 11:54:05 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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