Posted on 03/28/2017 5:12:49 AM PDT by Pinkbell
Bottom Line:
They are all liars.
They promised REPEAL.
But kept themselves, their families,
and their staff ...EXEMPT.
LIARS !
If Trump keeps slamming the conservatives who opposed this stupid Ryancare bill he’s going to be talking to himself at his next rally.
Mr. President it is conservatives who are your most numerous and committed supporters. Go all John Kasich on us and your Presidency crashes and burns.
Trump does a lot more conservative stuff outside of health care. His supporters won’t abandon him.
It’s not as though he is reneging on anything, though. He ran on a more liberal platform on healthcare than other Republicans and won on it. It didn’t prevent him from getting the nomination and winning the Presidency - in fact it probably helped with blue state voters.
Polls show his supporters are still with him at this point. I hope to see him get a win with a big bill somewhere - perhaps tax reform if they are done trying with healthcare. It’s sad how badly this healthcare thing was botched.
Ryan is J.Wellington wimpy. The hamburger quote
I reject the idea of phase 2 & 3 nonsense. No trust
People on FR need to realize that he didn’t win this election by promising to adhere to 100% of what talk radio conservatives wanted ONLY.
He’s given the right a hell of a lot for their support, and he also made an “appeal to nation” to the old constituencies of the rest-belt that the Dems had abandoned, as well as people that are no longer comfortable with the BS from either party.
In essence: Trump won as a 3rd party candidate by defeating the GOP nominee and then the Democrat one.
His supports are not the “GOP’s supporters” nor are they ideologues looking to him to get orders from Mark Levin before he gets out of bed.
My advice is for the right to cultivate a lot of good will he has shown us and dont try to be to cute by half thinking that you are the ones that made him only, thinking that his supporters are taking cues from Levin or Beck.
They aren’t, and they will maul the establishment right as much as they have the left.
Agreed.
Pres. Trump’s ONLY supporters are those whom
he promised to help by repealing ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.
Pres. Trump came up fast, a
nd will go down very, very fast
if he is shown to be a liar to his base.
Repeal ObamaCARE Now, Pres. Trump.
You cannot keep the requirements on pre-existing conditions and kill the subsidies and individual mandates. Premiums would go through the roof - 100 times more than they are now. The premiums would essentially have to be set at the same cost of the medical bills or every insurance company would go out of business. You cannot repeal the law of economic gravity with an act of congress.
I’ve been saying for months that Trump is a moderate on health care. Conservative on most other issues, but he has been openly and consistently moderate on health care. He said many times everyone would be covered and no one would die because they are poor.
, would come in the third stage - “””
Just reading these words makes me literally want to punch someone in the face for their asinine credulity.
"Effective as of Dec. 31, 2017, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted," the bill states.
Mo Brooks is a member of The House Freedom Caucus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ask your Congress Critter to sign the discharge petition for US Representative Mo Brooks's bill titled, "Obamacare Repeal Act"!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not a one note Johnny.
Donald Trump’s promise to repeal Obamacare was one of MANY reasons I voted for him. It sure as hell was not the only one.
Other reasons....doing something to stop the illegal alien invasion....building the Wall.....getting the economy going again....reining in the environmentalist wackos and cutting overbearing regulations....support for the Second Amendment....rebuilding the military....fighting the PC nonsense....cutting taxes, etc.
To remind ouselves who Donald Trump actually is when it comes to health care, go about half way down this article to the Scott Pelley/Donald Trump interview.
Bottom line is the Patient or end user was left out and taxpayers still holding the bag. Ryan was the reason RYANCARE FAILED.
Study: Senate Can Repeal Obamacare’s Regulations through Reconciliation, with Only 51 Votes
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/study-senate-can-repeal-obamacares-regulations-through-reconciliation-only
The Real Repeal Obamacare Bill has been Languishing in Committee since February 10 (links)
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/real-repeal-obamacare-bill-languishing-committee-since-february-10/
Sherman Antitrust Act Break UP MONOPOLIES, Big Pharma, INS and Congressional Lobbyist
https://www.britannica.com/event/Sherman-Antitrust-Act
The Big Money Behind Paul Ryan’s Political Career
Ryan’s 20 biggest backers are in the financial, insurance, or health sectors
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/08/14/the-big-money-behind-paul-ryans-political-career
Paul Ryan: Bankrolled by the Banksters, the Privatizers, and the Kochs
http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/08/11704/paul-ryan-bankrolled-banksters-privatizers-and-kochs
House Budget Robs Social Security for Welfare Payments
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/house-budget-robs-social-security-welfare-payments/
How the AARP Made $2.8 Billion By Supporting Obamacare’s Cuts to Medicare
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/09/22/the-aarps-2-8-billion-reasons-for-supporting-obamacares-cuts-to-medicare/#5d182c745935
How Money From Pharmaceutical Companies Sways Doctors’ Prescriptions
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/13/doctors-receiving-pharmaceutical-money.aspx
How Much of Big Pharma’s Massive Profits Are Used to Influence ...
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33010-how-much-of-big-pharma-s-massive-profits-are-used-to-influence-politicians
New drugstore lobby mandate would increase prescription drug costs in Medicare
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/325777-new-drugstore-lobby-mandate-would-increase-prescription-drug
Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market
http://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945
Big Pharma’s big donations to 2016 presidential candidates
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/11/health/big-pharma-presidential-politics/
True Cost of Healthcare
http://truecostofhealthcare.net/
Why Pharma Faces So Many Corruption Allegations - Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jwebb/2016/02/23/why-pharma-faces-so-many-corruption-allegations/#4f672b771bd3
New Harvard study reveals Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and how FDA cannot be trusted with public safety
http://seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-food/institutional-corruption-of-pharmaceuticals-how-FDA-cannot-be-trusted-with-public-safety.php#sthash.etRtisFQ.dpuf
Medicare Funds Totaling $60 Billion Improperly Paid, Report Finds
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/medicare-funds-totaling-60-billion-improperly-paid-report/story?id=32604330
VA’s record of waste, fraud and abuse keeps piling up
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/3/golden-hammer-vas-record-of-waste-fraud-abuse-keep/
The Secretary of The Dept. of Veteran Affairs & How He Is Wasting Our Tax Payer Money
https://sofrep.com/29130/the-department-of-veterans-affairs-fraud-waste-abuse-eric-shinseki/
Because Of Obamacare, Illegal Immigrants Get Taxpayer-Financed Care
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/03/25/because-of-federal-health-law-illegal-immigrants-get-care/#2139b2082139
Here’s how hospitals mark up saline solution by 1,000%
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2013/08/hospital-overcharging.html
Sen. Feinstein’s Husband’s Company to Bag $1 Billion for Government Deal
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/sen-feinsteins-husbands-company-to-bag-1-billion-for-government-deal/
Pelosi’s husband benefits too BILLIONS of $$.
Until you get Big Pharma, health ins, FDA from being donor pacs you won’t get reform.
VA, MEDICARE, Military Healthcare and MEDICAID all need fixing. They are out dated, no options, FIXED, RATIONED, AND FULL OF FRAUD AND WASTE NO ONE IS ROOTING OUT. As Seniors on Medicare/Tricare Life, hubby is 20 yr career Ret. SCPO, we have the regs of Medicare and DoD that MANDATE every aspect of our medical care right down to where we can get scripts. Military base or FRAUD prone Express Scripts. Only 1 time ER scripts are allowed for private pharmacy, if you have to do a after hours or ER trip to a Minor Med or ER. Daily meds come from the Base. Or you pay full Retail. He does not qualify for VA care, with 2 SS and Navy Pension the $38K cap is exceeded. As a spouse I’m not qualified for that part. Our Naval base is not huge so meds are limited, all refills come out of a automated system from Pensacola for our region, takes 5 days for a refill. ES is 2 weeks. All automated refills and they take 2 weeks. Just shoved in your mail box UN ID signed for.
Here’s what I think is going on:
I think the subject of wealth redistribution has become so politically “weaponized” that it is almost impossible to have an honest and constructive dialogue.
At root of this “bad blood” is Marxism itself, which seeks to divide the populace into classes in order to sow anger, discontent and jealousy among those with less, and justify legal plunder by an overreaching government from those with more.
How can the two sides ever agree on “a healthcare plan” which one side sees as redistributive property theft and the other side sees as redistributive social justice?
I think we lovers of economic liberty are ensnared in a political trap where we can’t make the case for small government, the constitution, individual rights, property rights, etc. without “confirming” the false belief that we are simply selfish and uncaring. This fallacy has been purposefully and successfully woven into the social consciousness by the Marxists and any words used to articulate the idea of individual liberty are automatically redirected in the gullible leftist brain toward an idea of social injustice.
The gullible left really does see us as the bad guys - the federal government is the giver of social justice and anyone who opposes the federal government is selfish and evil. They see our victories as dark foreshadows of the end of the world.
I believe Trump is exploring new ways of starting a conversation about what true social justice should look like - not the fake social justice imparted by Washington DC. The message can’t be direct. It has to be unfamiliar.
Above all, the message must be totally unrecognizable to the left as constitutional conservatism. As soon as the left believes Trump really wants to drain the swamp and shrink the federal government, they will have his number and be able to pit him against the common working man and he will be finished.
In the specific context of health care, Trump must be allowed by conservatives to say things like “we can’t have people dying in the streets” and “everyone will be covered and the government will pay for it”, etc.
After all, we small government constitutional conservatives do want that don’t we? Do we want people dying in the streets? Don’t we believe that an economy based on individual liberty, private property, and free enterprise is the best and only way to lift people out of poverty? Don’t we believe that there will always be some people in need of a helping hand and that we are morally obligated to offer it? Aren’t we, not the left, the ones that give to the poor, and start charitable organizations (although the government’s propaganda arm hides this fact)?
I constantly have to remind myself that Trump did not get elected by convincing enough voters that the federal government had to be dismantled. There aren’t nearly enough voters who understand that. He won by convincing enough voters that it is OK to want to keep more of what you earn, it is ok to put America first, it is ok to protect your family, property and defend yourself. It’s ok to be proud of what you are, even if (God forbid) you are a Christian, white, straight, carnivorous, deplorable, pro-life bitter clinger?
I have to believe that Trump’s vast and successful business experience has instilled in him a keen sense of when he’s being ripped off. He can smell a bad deal a mile away - the federal government’s redistributive “social justice” is nothing but a bad deal - a vast and corrupt protection racket that uses fear and anger of class division to justify government programs which siphon wealth off into the bank accounts of the billionaires who own the politicians.
Trump knows exactly what’s going on and has been going on for many decades. He knows that the most powerful people in the world dearly want to keep things exactly the way they are and the actual purpose of the oversized federal government is to do just that. If Trump is what I think he is, we are so lucky he came along.
I just hope that we constitutional conservatives will keep reminding ourselves that Trump can’t always be direct about what needs to be done - he can’t always say the words we want to hear and do the things we want him to do.
I think he has the left a little bit confused and that’s a good thing. I think in order to keep them confused, he has to be confusing even to us at times.
For example, I found it confusing when ge tweeted against the freedom caucus the other day. I wanted him to say what a bad deal Ryncare was and thank the freedom caucus for blocking it.
But I’m hoping he is keeping his eye on the prize: turning the government back over to the people like he promised - but I don’t expect to like every word or even every action. I think many of his words and actions are tailored for an audience other than me.
He has to charm the snake
The country will suffer big league if conservatives act like sunshine soldiers and summer patriots, deserting Trump at the drop of a pin over a single issue (or even a few issues), regardless of how much he’s accomplished to advance the conservative cause overall. I find a lot of the reactions to Trump lately on Free Republic (usually by people with very unrealistic goals) troubling.
Also Trump always said he wanted to keep the ‘preexisting conditions’ which was the obvious sign that he wasn’t really repealing it.
From above:
Scott Pelley: Universal health care?
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably—
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it.
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