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Posted on 06/03/2017 7:52:17 AM PDT by mainestategop
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I’m tempted to smirk that this belongs in religion. But overall it’s a very interesting story. Thanks for posting.
The best documented loss of life, perhaps, but no one knows how many the Thera (Santorini) eruption killed millennia before. It effectively ended the Minoan civilization.
Luke 13:
Repent or Perish
1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.
2 Jesus answered,“Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way?
3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
It happened in 1902?
There should be plenty of B&W photos around to show what St. Pierre was like in those days.
We in America can out-sin St. Pierre by the number of abortions performed by Planned Parenthood.
Woe is us.
That’s Old Testament right There.
It’s time for Justice. God is not mocked.
Watch this amazing presentation and get goose bumps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zly6mMAKTFs
God has made Earth into a very active geophysical system without which we would not be alive to contemplate it. Though not every catastrophe therefrom is necessarily Jonathan Edwards’ “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God”.
To presume on God necessarily a good, nor the right thing in His eyes.
In the Old Testament, if God was going to destroy sinners He always announced it. I.e: a volcano didn’t just one day erupt near Sodom and Gomorrah. God first told Abraham what He was doing, and why. Then Lot and his family were told. The fiancés of Lot’s two daughters were warned also.
Jesus cautioned against citing natural disasters from a Holier Than Thou POV. Jesus’ message is that we’re all sinners, and we all need the same thing: repentance and faith in Jesus.
VERY GOOD! These days if I turn on the news and see a disaster, I'm not gonna assume God did it like Harold camping and some of these doom and gloom people did.
Unless a credible prophet who is good and righteous warns me otherwise I wont believe it.
Kyle told me about that before he gave me the article. BTW, Sodom and Goomorrah were destroyed by an underground explosion of gas not a volcano.
I’m thinking the warnings are over.
We Have Been Warned.
They are in the Bible and if my memory
serves the final chapters of the
New Testament says as much.
Agree with you completely. There is another New Testament passage that also teaches along these lines. The disciples see a man born blind, and ask Jesus, ‘Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he should have been born blind?’
Jesus said, in essence, the blindness was not due to sin by either the man or his parents, but was so that the works of God might be displayed.
The result is the same. Jesus doesn’t want us to look at the misfortunes of others and draw the conclusion that they are worse sinners than we are. God judges people. We are here to obey God, not to pass judgment on every person less fortunate than ourselves.
For just one example, look at George Soros. He’s getting up in age, but he still seems pretty healthy. You and I could name plenty of people who seem far less sinful than Soros, but who have suffered much more. That’s not God’s way of affirming Soros’ lifestyle, or of condemning others. It’s just the non-intuitive way the world works this side of heaven.
Here’s how it was put in Psalm 73:
12 This is what the wicked are like—always free of care, they go on amassing wealth.
13 Surely in vain I have kept my heart pure and have washed my hands in innocence.
14 All day long I have been afflicted, and every morning brings new punishments.
Of course, if you read the rest of the Psalm, you find that the life of the wicked end in sudden calamity. It just doesn’t always happen as quickly as some might think it should.
How do you explain Jesus’ words in the passage I cited? He specifically pointed to a natural disaster—the collapse of a tower—and said the 18 men killed were no worse than the 1,000s not killed. Are you saying that God can control and use a volcano for judgment, but that He cannot similarly control the collapse of a tower?
Put another way, if Jesus wanted us to look at natural disasters and pass judgment, why did He teach just the opposite?
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Oh well.
Ummm...Okay
I said We ain’t getting anymore warnings.
God is fed up cause
We Don’t LISTEN!
Martinique still has almost 400,000 people. The article kind of implies the whole island was abandoned.
Where we might see things differently is the timing of the judgment. According to Jesus, judgment doesn't take place in this realm, but in the next.
Matthew 13:
24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away.
26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
28 ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
29 ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.'”
The Biblical consequence for nationally legalized child sacrifice (at that time king condoned) was invasion and conquest. ;)
God did give them a reprieve with a revival when they repented and tore down the altars.
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Extremely interesting! Thanks!
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