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And unicorn scat could run fusion reactors.
1 posted on 07/17/2017 9:00:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I first heard the term “basic income” in the socialist magazine Dissent in 2005. I was a 15-year-old leftist …
I am sorry you got off to such a miserable start, Mr. Matthews. You still have time to wake up to the truth.
2 posted on 07/17/2017 9:05:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Welfare is a universal minimal income.

It hasn’t fixed a thing.


3 posted on 07/17/2017 9:05:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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No it wouldn’t.

Whatever the ‘basic’ income is will buy you a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter ... if you’re lucky.

All the other incomes above ‘basic’ will rise to be what will buy the same stuff as today.

Complete dolts in this country canno think themselves out of a wet paper bag.


4 posted on 07/17/2017 9:07:49 PM PDT by Lorianne (NO)
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Yeah, I know I would take a Janitorial job if there was a “Basic Income”. College kids that come up with such nonsense live in a Fairy tale world


6 posted on 07/17/2017 9:10:09 PM PDT by heights
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Why stop at a “basic income”? Why not go for a “fantastically elaborate income”?

[Caveat: I think that caring for the poor is an essential part of godly living. I just grew up during the days of East and West Germany and noticed the different outcomes of the two different systems. The “middle class” in East Germany were poorer than the “poor” in West Germany. Still, I’m always open to great ideas for helping the poor. This just doesn’t seem to be one of those great ideas.]


7 posted on 07/17/2017 9:10:26 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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This is Dylan, the not faced kid wanting to impart his wisdom on us...


8 posted on 07/17/2017 9:10:45 PM PDT by aquila48
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This idiot is still a full blown radical LEFTY,who has managed to see a bit of reality, but not enough of it.

And just WHO is going to actually PAY enough in taxes ( surely NOT the Tech billionaires....they don't part with a dime, unless there's some payoff )to pay for this garbage ?

9 posted on 07/17/2017 9:10:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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Ping.


10 posted on 07/17/2017 9:10:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Dissent survive the 1950s so-called “witchhunt”. Why didn’t they ever go to Communist countries and urge THEM to reform their systems with liberal changes to be more Utopian? Why only attack the Capitalist West for over half a century?


11 posted on 07/17/2017 9:11:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared...)
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Why bother to read that wall of words from some idiot that obviously has no understanding of human nature? Within a decade the wagon would be full and nobody with a brain (or otherwise) would be out front pulling. All the smart ones would be taking the UBI and toiling away in the underground economy. Can you imagine the tax rates that would be required to support this scheme?
12 posted on 07/17/2017 9:13:44 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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” Nor has it quieted concerns about immigrants as potential drains on public resources. “


They ARE a drain if they are considered refugees——they get all of the freebies,immediately.

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13 posted on 07/17/2017 9:14:42 PM PDT by Mears
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I have an answer. Do a basic job and get a basic income.

Want Money? Figure it out. This is America.

Do what you do. If it is nothing, then don’t bother me.


18 posted on 07/17/2017 9:22:59 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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Here is what would happen in Reality. Five young guys each with a “Basic Income” of $12,000 or combined $60,000, would reant an apartment and be on Safari to stay.


19 posted on 07/17/2017 9:23:00 PM PDT by heights
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"And unicorn scat could run fusion reactors."

No. But success was never an issue. As long as we subsidize it then we will be creating green jobs.

This whole concept is silly. Trump can end poverty tomorrow.

Just change the definition - it is already an entirely subjective mark which is not, AT ALL, based on what folks a couple generations back would call poverty.

I would define it as homeless and / or starving.

Folks with three TVs, an iPhone for each, beer and food in the fridge, an air conditioned roof over head and a butt that gets mail in two zip codes... are not in poverty.

It is a relative definition today. It can't be eliminated without eliminating variance in income and wealth.

The whole topic is something for the states to decide anyway, not the feds.

20 posted on 07/17/2017 9:25:23 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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He looks like Thomas Paine.


21 posted on 07/17/2017 9:25:34 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Basic wisdom would end dumb articles like this forever.


22 posted on 07/17/2017 9:26:35 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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A basic income will pay you the cost of inflation which is not the fantasy world on the Unicorn Farm. Instead, you will be in the same poverty you thought you were leaving.

Like Keynesian economics, basic income is a policy that serious economists need to investigate thoroughly and not be given the empty Unicorn dreams I waded though in this piece by Dylan Matthews.


28 posted on 07/17/2017 9:34:30 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.

Apparently Mathews has learned nothing. He’s still part of the something-for-nothing crowd.


29 posted on 07/17/2017 9:34:46 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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A basic income really could end poverty forever

Dear nitwit,

No, it will not.

Poverty will simply be redefined. The income will be deemed "insufficient to meet basic necessities" and we will be off again.

How do I know?

Real true poverty is totally unknown in the US. Yes, even among the homeless.

Congratulations! We have succeeded in getting rid of poverty. Except you just redefined what poverty is.

And so here we are.

Quite frankly I am tired of hearing the same old "bright new idea" from the same imbeciles decade after decade.

Please remove yourself forthwith to a place of great heat.

Hugs and Kisses,

HTB

30 posted on 07/17/2017 9:35:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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12 years, and the guy still thinks like a 15 year old, with a slightly larger vocabulary.


31 posted on 07/17/2017 9:36:55 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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