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1 posted on 10/03/2017 8:04:23 AM PDT by LS
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2 posted on 10/03/2017 8:05:20 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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I’m confused by the guy’s thorough preparations and apparent knowledge and ownership of guns. I find that discordant with his reported history. But that proves nothing.

If hotel occupants near his room on the 32nd floor heard him firing, that this good information. I saw one story that claimed a smoke detector in his room went off because of all the shots fired.

If there were a second shooter on some other floor — did any hotel occupants near the other room(s) report the noise? Did any other smoke detectors go off?


4 posted on 10/03/2017 8:11:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Most of this is explainable and not a big deal. Frankly, calling the 32’s floor “half way up” a 45 story building would not surprise me. In a situation like that, “half way up” is a very broad range. It means, “not the top and not the bottom.”

Regarding the strobe flashes, two things:

1. I already heard an eyewitness say that the strobe had been going on for a while and they had complained to the hotel management BEFORE any shots were fired.
2. When a strobe light is captured by a video recording device that captures at a slightly different frame rate than the strobe, the strobe can appear to come in bursts. It is because you see it for a few frames, starting at the beginning of the aperture timing of the first frame and ending at the end of the aperture timing of the last frame. Then it is not seen for the few blanks within frames, and then repeats.

I’ve seen this effect in both movies and home videos.


5 posted on 10/03/2017 8:12:01 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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I always enjoy your take on things. Thank you, LS.


9 posted on 10/03/2017 8:16:06 AM PDT by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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Is there a glass building opposite Mandalay Bay tower? Google Earth shows a construction site.


10 posted on 10/03/2017 8:16:52 AM PDT by DBrow
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I understand the fire alarm was going off. There are usually strobes go off along with the audible alarm. The strobes should have been flashing throughout the building.


12 posted on 10/03/2017 8:18:15 AM PDT by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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Hi LS.

The hotel room on the 32nd floor has broken windows, rifles and spent casings. So it’s clear there was shooting from that room. The casings and weapons will be matched to spent bullets and bullets from bodies. If some don’t match, then there’s a problem.

If there was shooting from another room even the maids would know by now. I don’t see where you are going with this, and I don’t see how you can conclude the flashes are gun shots. How do know those flashes aren’t reflections or something else? If there was shooting from another location, there will be bullets found that won’t match the guns on the 32nd floor.

So, it will be obvious. Ignoring it will require a coverup that will have to include police and the hotel itself.

I don’t find that possibility realistic. Looking forward to your further comments and I appreciate your attempt to find new evidence.


14 posted on 10/03/2017 8:21:02 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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1. There now appears to be at least three, and maybe four, videos showing some sort of muzzle flash" from a lower floor on the opposite side from the 32nd floor "sniper's nest." To me, one video is totally convincing. It's about 10 seconds, but that is in my mind no doubt an automatic weapon being fired. In the more newly released video, from a phone in a car that is moving, at first I thought this was not convincing. It easily could have been a stobe light in a room. But a later, better resolution version of this video surfaced. It is NOT a strobe. It goes in "bursts." And it is about the same location as the first one I saw.

These are clearly not "reflections."

Sound activated strobe light that went off every time the sound of gunfire reached it.

There are no broken windows on the lower floors, so obviously no one fired out of any of those rooms. A "party" strobe is not an unusual thing in a party town.

16 posted on 10/03/2017 8:22:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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3. While there IS what appears to be muzzle flash from floors 4-6, so far I have not seen any video showing any muzzle flash from the 32nd floor---despite the fact this guy was using a "machine gun" and shot for over 40 minutes. Not one. Please, please: if you have this video, post it.

I find that extremely odd. There would be some sort of light from the firing position, especially from a machine gun.

Not if the guy backed up into the room a bit. If his gun was mounted on a tripod, it would not be seen unless he stuck the barrel outside the window. Also, he probably had a flash suppressor on the gun.

17 posted on 10/03/2017 8:24:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Just one point to make. At about 30 minutes in the police audio an officer says the guy has not fired for about 15 minutes. I have not seen any reference to firing after that first ten to fifteen minutes.


18 posted on 10/03/2017 8:25:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Here’s a guy who was on the 34th floor above Paddock’s room and helped guide police to the shooter.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-chris-bethel-below-stephen-paddock-recalls-frantic-scene/


22 posted on 10/03/2017 8:30:17 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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(Tinfoil Hat On) - In regards to the lower floor muzzle flashes at the hotel, there are some kind of tower structures directly across from the hotel, which have a high vantage point directly across from the concert venue, similar in height. If a trained individual scaled the tower and took a shooting position, the muzzle flash would have reflected in or about the same area of the hotel. I’ve listened to the recordings, and I clearly hear two types of simultaneous gunfire. If the 4th or 10th floor area had a shooter, the window would surely have been broken. This tower structure would also be a great vantage point to “eliminate” the primary shooter as well. I think it would be worth the time to inspect this structure for foot or scaling prints, powder residue, etc. The exiting shooter could have easily blended into the crowd with all the commotion for his escape.


23 posted on 10/03/2017 8:37:40 AM PDT by blabs
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These are clearly not "reflections."

Sorry but the only thing clearly is they are from from clearly anything. Sorry I do not see anything that convinces me. Also if those are shots coming from that floor, how did they shot people through a window that cannot be opened without breaking the glass.

26 posted on 10/03/2017 8:41:05 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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If those are muzzle flashes on other floors, where are the openings? Did they expertly remove the window glass and replace it?

So far, I have only seen pix of the 2 openings on the upper (32nd) floor. Other reports say police found a hammer inside that suite and they surmise it was used to break out those windows.


27 posted on 10/03/2017 8:42:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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28 posted on 10/03/2017 8:42:36 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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There are many parts of this story that are not known as of this time.


32 posted on 10/03/2017 8:48:23 AM PDT by BobNative
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LS,

This one is going to be hard to explain. According to what I can find, the shooter owned the weapons. Not stolen or given to like in most cases. He had no history of anything. And according to Chris Sullivan, the owner of the Guns & Guitars gun shop in Mesquite, he confirmed that Paddock was a customer who cleared all necessary background checks and procedures. The shooter was legal across the board to own the weapons.

This one will be a tough nut to crack and, and even according to family, no one has any idea as to why. He even had fertilizer in the room that could be used to build a bomb similar to the one in Oklahoma City.

Doesn’t make sense.

rwood


39 posted on 10/03/2017 8:52:45 AM PDT by Redwood71
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Just a few points.

First the windows of that hotel can't be opened they are fixed.

Second if there was a second shooter where are all the spent shell casings? Are you suggesting that someone stuck around to police up their brass?

43 posted on 10/03/2017 8:54:32 AM PDT by usurper
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How do we explain 23 guns in his room other than he was mentally impaired?


44 posted on 10/03/2017 8:54:34 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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2. The immediate response from people seeking to debunk was "yeah but what about broken windows there?"

Glad you asked. This is video from TODAY: https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/915225436367462401

I made your twitter link clickable.

There are literally dozens of reporters doing stand-ups in front of the Mandalay Bay hotel, and they all show only two broken windows facing the concert plaza, both of which are on the 32nd floor.

Are we to believe that the government repaired the lower windows from the "second shooter" before sunrise?


48 posted on 10/03/2017 8:56:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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