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Common Threads in Mass Murders
Canada Free Press ^ | 10/05/17 | Dr. Robert Owens

Posted on 10/06/2017 6:44:39 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

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1 posted on 10/06/2017 6:44:39 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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Pharmaceuticals?


2 posted on 10/06/2017 6:48:43 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Sean_Anthony

Common thread? how about the inability of the victims to shoot back.


3 posted on 10/06/2017 6:49:32 AM PDT by Bob Celeste
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To: Sean_Anthony

Crazy people take psychotropic drugs?
Seems far fetched to me.


4 posted on 10/06/2017 6:51:57 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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“.........According to the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International, “At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 172 wounded and 80 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs).”


5 posted on 10/06/2017 6:52:01 AM PDT by Candor7 ( (Obama Fascism http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.htm)
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To: Maverick68

Valium is hardly the drug that sets off murderers, lol. Coke, on the other hand...


6 posted on 10/06/2017 6:53:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: South Hawthorne

I’ve long suspected that violent ideation is merely suppressed by medication and only builds and festers, so once medication is removed or even changed it’s worse than before.


7 posted on 10/06/2017 6:55:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sean_Anthony

Medications are a problem. Definite connection to many of these incidents. Correlation is not cause, but it’s worrisome.

What I think is obvious is that The Powers That Be want to do things to our society which they cannot do while we are armed. They want to take away the guns. Any excuse will do. Murders? Suicides? Global Warming? The answer to everything is more gun control. Because The Powers That Be have got plans.


8 posted on 10/06/2017 6:57:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

The author goes on to claim it is connected some way or another to the use of psychotropic drugs, Zoloft, Paxil, Effexor, Celexa, Prozac and Ritalin among the most often mentioned.

Apparently, there are both short-term and long-term effects of these drugs, some of which change the basic brain chemistry in an apparently irreversible manner.

Serious enough that there are some few who have a genetic predisposition of various mental quirks, then to overly emphasize these disorders with powerful chemical stimulants and medications wrongly prescribed.

And you thought alcohol and nicotine were bad enough.


9 posted on 10/06/2017 6:59:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

I read somewhere there are two ways to create a “crazy person”
One is the obvious way of mental and physical abuse.
The other, less obvious way, is to spoil them rotten.


10 posted on 10/06/2017 7:01:51 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Liberals. THAT’S the common thread.


11 posted on 10/06/2017 7:15:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Pharmaceuticals, absolutely.

Psychoactive drugs often put a person in a disassociated fog, like playing a third-person game (you’re controlling _that_ character, you’re not _in_ the character).

More importantly methinks, and something I see NOBODY discuss, is:
When someone _misses_ a few doses, they often go batsh!t crazy - and don’t recognize it as a problem.
I’ve been up close to this a few times. Person is duly calmed by the meds, but missing just ONE dose (and OMG if they miss 3 cold turkey) creates behavior 10x worse than what’s being treated. Can take a _week_ for resumed meds to calm them back down to stability.
Patients often describe ending usage as duly hellacious. Can take a month of literally opening capsules & counting out daily grains to reduce dosage very slowly to not induce hysteria/violence.

And unless ROP is involved, psychoactive pharmaceuticals are ALWAYS involved in mass shootings - and nobody ever determines if doses were missed.


12 posted on 10/06/2017 7:20:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Maverick68

There’s also the theory that some antidepressants induce extreme violence precisely by doing exactly what they’re supposed to: make people feel calm & confident in doing what they are inclined to do - and if that’s murder a bunch of people, then they’ll feel good about going about doing it.


13 posted on 10/06/2017 7:22:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Fact: 5 percent of men and 11 percent of women are taking antidepressants to combat a once rare problem. Up 400% since 1988.


14 posted on 10/06/2017 7:42:00 AM PDT by ecomcon
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The implication is that the meds somehow enhance the propensity of some individuals to commit violence. The simpler takeaway is that all of these killers exhibited thought/behavior disorders which led to their being prescribed medications to control their psychiatric disorder. Perhaps the real common thread is that bad guys are deranged, and that efforts to help control their thoughts and behavior were inadequate, but they were recognized as being potential problems before the headline generating actions.

Blaming the medications is like blaming the guns! Guns do not commit violence, and medication does not cause violence. BAD PEOPLE commit violence! It is time to dump political correctness, and deal with the reality!


15 posted on 10/06/2017 7:54:21 AM PDT by daifu (Molon Labe)
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“The implication is that the meds somehow enhance the propensity of some individuals to commit violence. The simpler takeaway is that all of these killers exhibited thought/behavior disorders which led to their being prescribed medications to control their psychiatric disorder. Perhaps the real common thread is that bad guys are deranged, and that efforts to help control their thoughts and behavior were inadequate, but they were recognized as being potential problems before the headline generating actions.

Blaming the medications is like blaming the guns! Guns do not commit violence, and medication does not cause violence. BAD PEOPLE commit violence! It is time to dump political correctness, and deal with the reality!”

You are right of course. Idiots try to find the universal scapegoat such as guns, drugs, alcohol etc. Fact is some people are just genetically evil. Period.


16 posted on 10/06/2017 8:04:16 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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Blaming the medications is like blaming the guns!

I think that is going too far.

If I hold a gun in my hand, I do not think it changes me in any important fashion. I am still me.

If you pump my brain full of this medication or that medication, you can change me -- either short-term or perhaps long-term.

I am not on medication. If I pick up a gun and shoot someone, that is 100% on me -- no one should blame Smith&Wesson.
My neighbor is medicated. If she picks up a knife and kills her husband, I think I'd wonder about her medication.

17 posted on 10/06/2017 8:22:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Well, is it that the drugs trigger these psychotic acts, are that they are ineffective in preventing psychotic acts that might have happened anyway, perhaps even sooner? I notice some anti-depressant drug ads warn that “suicidal thoughts may occur,” but are they saying that the drug may cause these thoughts, or simply be effective in preventing them?


18 posted on 10/06/2017 8:36:23 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: ecomcon
"Fact: 5 percent of men and 11 percent of women are taking antidepressants to combat a once rare problem. Up 400% since 1988."

Or maybe depression used to be considered as an inescapable part of life. Thus, people would be less likely to go to their doctor about it, and it would be less likely to be treated as a disease and therefore medicated.
19 posted on 10/06/2017 8:41:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Common thread? SSRI drugs
Link below has 5000 articles of this common thread. More are added daily.

https://ssristories.org/
20 posted on 10/06/2017 8:42:03 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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