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To: Starman417

This author was so close yet missed by a mile. The musket was not the semi auto of the day. It was the FULL AUTO of the day. The American people and the government DO NOT have the same weapons today. And There lies the problem. The government aggressively prosecutes you for possessing the same full auto weapons that thousands of non military agents and local police use everyday. They can have short Barrel shotguns and rifles, machine guns, surpressors, flash bang grenades, grenade launchers, yet these are all restricted from the American people. Why do the police and thousands of federal agents need machine guns yet they are prohibited from the people?


12 posted on 07/12/2018 1:31:04 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist
Why do the police and thousands of federal agents need machine guns yet they are prohibited from the people?

Because leftists intend to disarm you, impoverish you, imprison you, and kill you.

They've been stacking up bodies by the millions since 1789 to prove they're serious about it.

13 posted on 07/12/2018 1:34:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: precisionshootist

My irritation lays in the fact they have them, yet I have to pay for a tax stamp, forfiet search and seizure rules, and bohica for a permit.


14 posted on 07/12/2018 1:36:32 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought.)
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To: precisionshootist

“The government aggressively prosecutes you for possessing the same full auto weapons that thousands of non military agents and local police use everyday.”

While the leftists’ god the Fraud gave terrorists full auto weapons and Stinger missiles.


15 posted on 07/12/2018 1:40:17 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: precisionshootist

“This author was so close yet missed by a mile. The musket was not the semi auto of the day. It was the FULL AUTO of the day.”

Actually, the Pennsylvania/Kentucky Long Rifle was the full auto of the day...


24 posted on 07/12/2018 2:16:53 PM PDT by snoringbear (W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: precisionshootist

“Why do the police and thousands of federal agents need machine guns yet they are prohibited from the people?”


Well, they’re not exactly prohibited...if the firearm was made before 5/19/1986. After that, we’re S.O.L.

And therein lies ANOTHER big problem (one that I’d LOVE to see litigated once Kavanaugh is confirmed or, better yet, when RBG is replaced with someone similar to Kavanaugh on this issue): The 1939 case of “US v. Miller” stated that the (unconstitutional, IMHO) 1934 National Firearms Act WAS constitutionally fine (i.e. didn’t violate the 2A’s prohibition on infringing upon Miller’s right to own arms) because it didn’t prohibit him from owning it; rather, the NFA only imposed a tax, something within the power of Congress to do. Yeah, that is VERY questionable - especially when $200 at that time was like $5,000 today - would such a tax to buy an AR-15 be OK now? I think not. BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM: in 1986, Title 18, Section 922(o) was put into law, which PROHIBITED the BATF from issuing the NFA tax stamps for full autos made after 5/18/86...IOW, they prohibited the collection of the tax that the “Miller” Court said was necessary to make the NFA legal. Thus, IMHO, you now have a situation where the government created the condition in 1986 to make a previously-constitutional law passed in 1934, suddenly unconstitutional. All we lack right now is a ruling to that effect by 5 Justices.

I think that we have a shot at this. It is not too unlike the situation with carry laws - there were, of course, all kinds of claims that it’d be like the Wild West (which wasn’t, in actual fact, all that “wild”), that people would be gunned down in the streets by the bushel...and it turns out that carry license holders are MUCH MORE law-abiding than even the police. WRT full autos, there has been exactly ONE (1) criminal act committed with a registered full auto, and that was by an off-duty cop.

We are ready for NFA repeal.


29 posted on 07/12/2018 3:10:37 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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