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Can Cities Pave the Way Toward a Universal Basic Income?
The Nation ^ | August 31, 2018 | Sophie Kasakove

Posted on 09/01/2018 10:18:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Seruzawa; Richard Axtell; 2ndDivisionVet
"...what will people do with the money?"


21 posted on 09/01/2018 11:26:19 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Where are the Obama-Creamer audio tapes?/GM bondholders: America's SAfrica White farmers...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some countries have already tried and rejected this.
Switzerland has for one. If Canada did this, it would cost them about $15. BILLION annually. Ontario and Prince Edward provinces are still looking into it anyway.


22 posted on 09/01/2018 11:41:20 PM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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23 posted on 09/01/2018 11:48:45 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how you never hear of “Universal Basic Effort”


24 posted on 09/02/2018 12:00:42 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: jmacusa
Single Payer will screw the middle class of the whole world. Presently they can maybe get to the USA when they can't get treatment in their home countries. When US Health Care goes, well...

When USA goes to S.P. then research will peter out because then it becomes another cost to be balanced with Defense and the Dole and all the other things the government pays for and politically not the most important cost. When research ends, antibiotics gradually reach the ends of their useful lives then are not replaced after which Medicine is back to 1910 or so i.e. you get sick you die.

25 posted on 09/02/2018 12:04:02 AM PDT by arthurus (dgh)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now look at them yo-yo’s that’s the way you do it
You play the guitar on the MTV
That ain’t workin’ that’s the way you do it
Money for nothin’ and chicks for free

Dire Straits


26 posted on 09/02/2018 12:04:42 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: 867V309

These first trials are, indeed, the road toward UBI. However it is a short road and the pavement ends when the cities that implement it first are stricken by economic reality.


27 posted on 09/02/2018 12:08:06 AM PDT by arthurus (c)
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I've been mixing it up with some dumb ass Canadian trolls on You Tube and they think their socialized medicine is the greatest thing on Earth. But all of them avoid the question about how come when Canadians need real health care and major surgery they all come here. Some of them tel that's all bs and they get the care they need right away. I'm not buying it.
28 posted on 09/02/2018 12:10:46 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Universal basic income = universal bankruptcy initiative


29 posted on 09/02/2018 12:22:15 AM PDT by Fedora
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If you don’t work, you don’t eat- God


30 posted on 09/02/2018 12:34:55 AM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

UBI Universal Basic Income is a 401K plan.

Republicans have already created it.

Here is a cookie Democrats. Now go home.


31 posted on 09/02/2018 1:37:06 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: TheNext

UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME

UBI Conservative = 401k = Success!

UBI Liberal = Welfare = FAILURE!

Do not fall for another Democrat scam!


32 posted on 09/02/2018 1:50:47 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just curious how in the hell this UBI scheme is to be paid for. Further, watch for demands for it start all over CA, especially with that nutball Gavin Newsom headed to the governor’s chair.


33 posted on 09/02/2018 2:06:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberals, piss off. That is all.)
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Mia Birdsong traveled to cities across the country to find out how people struggling to make ends meet would use [...] Universal Basic Income (UBI).

Anyone else see the inconsistency here?

MOST people are NOT "struggling to make ends meet." But UBI would guarantee EVERYONE a basic income.

So, in actual fact, it would be much more interesting to determine how people who are already doing fine would use UBI, since they would constitute the majority of the recipients.

But then, we all know just how quickly, after its introduction, UBI would be saddled with restrictions and means-testing, don't we? How it would quickly become just another form of welfare for the poor.

Regards,

34 posted on 09/02/2018 3:17:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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anyone who lives in a neighborhood with a median income at or below that of the city’s overall median income of $46,033 will be eligible

So why is it called UNIVERSAL Basic Income?

Regards,

35 posted on 09/02/2018 3:19:03 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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"we don’t have a good example in the US of what happens when you give money without conditions"

Ahhh...but we do. I grew up in a town in Minnesota surrounded by three Indian reservations. Anyone who could demonstrate that they were of sufficient ancestry to be a member of the tribe could obtain a "universal basic income", as long as they lived on the reservation. Many did. This income was paid by the federal taxpayers of the US.

The results were quite stark. Our town had the highest crime rate of any similar sized city in the state. There was rampant alcoholism and related car accidents. The cities jails were full most weekends. The housing conditions on the reservations were abysmal. There were no obvious building codes, and what locals called "tar paper shacks" were abundant. The "universal basic income" destroyed most of the lives it touched.

36 posted on 09/02/2018 3:22:30 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Lowering taxes would be the a much better fix.


37 posted on 09/02/2018 3:31:42 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Testing the methods to create a depentent oppressed and poor population while assuring a voting block for themselves


38 posted on 09/02/2018 3:32:03 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think universal basic income is the answer, but this sentiment and an understandable fear of the future is what is driving this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU&t=253s


39 posted on 09/02/2018 3:38:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Of course the commie rag nation would be for this. It’s nothing more than communism!


40 posted on 09/02/2018 3:47:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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