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Anyone Ha Property Expropriated. Need Some Tips.
N/A | June 26, 2019 | Self

Posted on 06/26/2019 4:22:39 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck

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To: budda1954

The state will cover $4000 per owner in legal fees. I’m trying to get the other 5 neighbors impacted by this to work together. Between the 6 of us the state will cover $24000 in fees, so I think we can get a decent lawyer.


41 posted on 06/26/2019 5:39:06 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: ExpatCanuck
Since your current mortgage lender is in the same boat, would it help to go to them and "try" for a mortgage refinance?

The bank should go through the expense of figuring out how much your property-value has changed as a result of the highway expansion.

They might also offer help to retain as much value as possible—maybe put you and your affected neighbors into a mutual endeavor.

42 posted on 06/26/2019 5:41:38 PM PDT by Does so (A mysterious nuclear explosion would have the fingerprints of Uranium One!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL, I was joking about that with my wife the other day! Anyone have any endangered tree frogs they can loan me for a few months. :-)


43 posted on 06/26/2019 5:42:18 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: HotHunt

Good advice, for the most part. There are times though when a hard fight against the odds ends in a win. About twenty five years ago in the Orlando area, my brother and I and a handful of allies defeated a major toll road project. The fight took years, considerable sacrifice, and had many twists and turns, but we eventually won.


44 posted on 06/26/2019 6:29:48 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ExpatCanuck

If the local government hired a third party appraiser rather than using their own in house staff you probably do not need to get your own appraisal. The third party appraiser is not likely that far off from value. PM me if you really want a suggestion for an appraiser that works in PA.


45 posted on 06/26/2019 6:44:22 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: ExpatCanuck

Look for a real estate appraiser. Depending how long ago the condemnation occurred, there may be data where they can see a decrease in property values.

I haven’t gone through this myself though. The above would technically be a double appraisal. If they even do such a thing, yes, it’d probably cost you twice as much.


46 posted on 06/26/2019 7:18:25 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Rockingham
That was 25 years ago. The odds are against this guy winning today. It's a practical lesson. Sometimes it's better to not beat your head against the wall.

"Yeah, I could sue and win....but do I really want literally years of my life consumed by legal fights and courtrooms appearances as my bank account shrinks?" Many people would take a pass.

I say live to see a better day to fight. Watch from the sidelines on this one.

47 posted on 06/26/2019 7:43:28 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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That was 25 years ago. The odds are against this guy winning today. It's a practical lesson. Sometimes it's better to not beat your head against the wall.

"Yeah, I could sue and win....but do I really want literally years of my life consumed by legal fights and courtrooms appearances as my bank account shrinks?" Many people would take a pass.

I say live to see a better day to fight. Watch from the sidelines on this one.

48 posted on 06/26/2019 7:43:52 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: HotHunt

Actually, the toll road fight would probably be easier and quicker today due to the Internet and social media.


49 posted on 06/26/2019 8:49:23 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ExpatCanuck

Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that in a takings case, you can go directly to federal court; and no longer have to go through an exhaustive and expensive state administrative or legal case to get “just compensation”. States will generally do everything they can to screw over land owners they want to steal property from. The case is a big win for property rights.

You can find it here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-647_m648.pdf


50 posted on 06/26/2019 9:31:14 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: ExpatCanuck

PA? they’ll do what they can to screw you over. my dad’s side of the family had plenty of land taken for highway projects including their house. The most recent offense was cutting through a piece of property, paying him a pittance based on the area taken (never mind it went through the property) Then took almost half of what he received back in taxes.


51 posted on 06/26/2019 10:06:38 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: ExpatCanuck

How about a box of spotted newts? We have oodles of em.


52 posted on 06/26/2019 10:31:03 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: ExpatCanuck

You must live near me. I too, live right off of Rte. 322 in Pa. and am dealing with all the noise due to highway expansion. Contact me privately.


53 posted on 06/27/2019 2:47:05 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: ExpatCanuck

If they are already starting, you missed your chance.

Go to the town hall/ DPW and find out what the hearing plan is.

Chances are your property already has an easement written. I know that while I pay taxes on the first eight feet of my property that abuts the road, they have a right of way to pretty much do what they want.


54 posted on 06/27/2019 7:12:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: ExpatCanuck

I don’t know if in these situations it helps, or not, for groups of the effected homeowners to operate collectively - hiring a law firm to represent the group. I’m curious if that approach helps the individuals from being “picked off” with lower offers than they might bargaining as a group.


55 posted on 06/27/2019 7:47:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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