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Study: Transgender Athletes Have Advantages in Women’s Sports Despite Hormone Therapy
Breitbart.Com ^ | 9/28/19 | Dylan Gwinn

Posted on 09/28/2019 7:35:00 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger

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I am a female who performed moderately hard physical labor and weight training almost 40 years ago, in my 20’s. The strongest female will be defeated by almost every male, even a pre adolescent or skinny male. The leverage of an extra inch or two alone on a limb gives a tremendous advantage. No way will female hormones take away that advantage.


41 posted on 09/28/2019 9:23:21 AM PDT by F450-V10
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

You need to spend money to study what most people already know?


42 posted on 09/28/2019 9:30:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Who paid for this study of the completely obvious?


43 posted on 09/28/2019 9:34:09 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Say it ain’t so Joe!

Paging Captain Obvious.


44 posted on 09/28/2019 9:42:17 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The physical development of males during adolescence gives them more than just greater muscle mass. The manner in which ligaments attach to bones, the tendons that move the bones, and the bone’s relative lengths convey a huge leverage advantage.

This cannot be undone by hormone therapy. Progressives like to deny science, while claiming a monopoly of knowledge about it.


45 posted on 09/28/2019 9:52:20 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

46 posted on 09/28/2019 9:55:42 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: RArtfulogerDodger
If the records were available they would show that 93% of East German women’s Olympic metals were won by men.
47 posted on 09/28/2019 11:23:11 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Still a man by DNA? Check. More muscle mass? Check. Heavier bone density? Check. Leftists are complete morons? Check.


48 posted on 09/28/2019 12:43:34 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: DMZFrank
"Progressives like to deny science"

There's a new science now, and it's not like that one invented by racist old white men. It got new rules, like consensus instead of evidence, and we can settle it whenever we want. Whenever we say "yup, that's right", it be settled, and you gotta pay us a tax. And if you deny that, we lock you.
49 posted on 09/28/2019 1:04:17 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: david1292; dirtboy
Thank you for the correction. It does indeed reverse the situation.

The big beefy woman athlete in the picture, though, being in "transition", is apparently taking testosterone. Isn't that considered doping?

I read recently about the level of testosterone in TW's that is considered OK for competing with women. Although lower than that of almost all men, it's still on an order of 10x the amount a real, unaltered, undoped woman would have.

These athletic competitions are supposed to demonstrate which athlete is the best, not which chemical-hormonal regimen is best.

Does that make sense?

50 posted on 09/28/2019 2:14:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: hal ogen

It’s not the academic and government feminists who are suffering here. It’s girl athletes who had nothing do with inventing and enforcing the new gender ideology.


51 posted on 09/28/2019 2:17:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
To answer your question - yes, it's considered doping. That is the bad loophole left in the Texas Athletic association rules at that time.

The young woman in question (who has bee told she can turn into a man if she has surgery and takes excess testosterone) wanted to compete in the boys' weight class in wrestling. The rules stipulated that since the girl was born a girl, with XX chromosomes, she had to compete against women - even with the boosted testosterone levels.

In short, it was an epic fustercluck at that time. I don't know if the rules have been re-written yet.

It's viewed as one thing if those who are girls who think they are guys are trying to compete against guys. The dumpster fire is that when these middle of the pack boys/men decide they want to be a girl - have not taken any hormones, still have all the testosterone coursing through their veins along with greater muscle mass, bone density, lung capacity, and recovery times are competing against girls/women who are not on the same capability level.

Yet none of the idiot liberals are standing up and saying no. So in the sports where speed, power, strength are a mandate for the sport, it's a massacre. (Such as weightlifting, track and field, wrestling, etc.)

The girls competing can't say jack for being banned for hate speech but are losing out left and right to these men who claim they are girls (sorry but you're a manual, not an automatic, and thus a guy no matter who told you otherwise!)

These girls are damned if they do, damned if they don't - and there's plenty I've read, including here, who are still bent over Title IX coming into play and the universities, instead of expanding budgets for these new opportunities, cut the non-money making sports for guys and it's been acrimony since.

And as I read this week (and forget where)... when men can be women, then women are non-existent. The neo-traditionalism of forcing women out of previous opportunities such as scholarships and college options because men who claim to be women are taking those scholarships and competing against more women and beating them every single time. It makes me think that these liberals who are enabling such behavior are truly misogynistic and girls are clamoring to go right along with it and will lose out on so much in the coming decade - all because some liberal idiot said to a mentally ill child, Yes, you can become a woman if you say so.

The coddling will continue as long as the root causes - child abuse - are ignored.

52 posted on 09/28/2019 5:28:54 PM PDT by Maigrey (Life, for a liberal, is one never-ending game of Calvinball. - Giotto)
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To: Maigrey

Well said. Thank you for contributing these insights.


53 posted on 09/28/2019 5:36:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy isa battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language. Wittgenstein)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Exactly what I said.


54 posted on 09/30/2019 7:54:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Definitely a good question


55 posted on 09/30/2019 7:55:20 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RArtfulogerDodger; Reily; txrefugee; Sacajaweau; bk1000

Put weight restrictions and new categories on all sports - NOT just boxing.

That’ll knock out most of the ‘men pretending to be women’ from women’s sports. The category for women’s swim sports for people over 170 would mean the fake women would mostly be competing against5 each other.


56 posted on 06/22/2023 9:29:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', & sexual weirdos - democrat's team against the rest of us)
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To: GOPJ

I guess but it still acknowledges a nonreality.


57 posted on 06/22/2023 9:42:42 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily
Remember, we're dealing with people who feel if a surgeon inserts feathers under someone's skin that the person becomes a bird.

We can fight these weirdos are more than one front at a time...

Weight restrictions would stop the most dangerous fake women from being able to cripple or physically damage women athletes...

Some fake woman weighs 200 pounds she's not going to make the same volleyball team with real women weighing less than 150 pounds.

It's not a perfect solution - that would require people to put aside their delusions that cosmetic surgery changes a person's sex.

Remember, we're dealing with people who feel if a surgeon incerts feathers under someone's skin that the person becomes a bird.

58 posted on 06/22/2023 9:56:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', & sexual weirdos - democrat's team against the rest of us)
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To: GOPJ

Agree!
I just have a hard time agreeing to nonsense.


59 posted on 06/22/2023 9:57:34 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

I agree with you.

But we need to protect real women athletes from the damaged large men pretending to be women can inflict on them.

Eventually we need to tell these people that cosmetic surgery doesn’t change their sex. That they can pretend ‘to be a bird’ but that doesn’t give them the right to sh*t on our floors...(since real birds don’t use toilets)


60 posted on 06/22/2023 10:05:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', & sexual weirdos - democrat's team against the rest of us)
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