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1 posted on 12/11/2019 3:54:33 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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I’m tired of this whole sh’t show . Just get it over with once and for all. sheesh


2 posted on 12/11/2019 3:57:56 PM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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One good turn deserves another!


3 posted on 12/11/2019 3:58:30 PM PST by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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No, Horowitz himself testified that it didn’t.


4 posted on 12/11/2019 3:59:09 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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If no-one is charged, arrested, tried, and convicted of a crime, then the Deep State wins, again.


5 posted on 12/11/2019 3:59:27 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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Vanity...


6 posted on 12/11/2019 3:59:33 PM PST by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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Did he say he was “able to exonerate” them?


7 posted on 12/11/2019 4:00:52 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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Mueller plowed ahead with malicious prosecution of 3 of 4 people the traitors initially targeted- Manafort, Flynn, and Pappadopoulis yet never prosecuted Page. Wonder why.

Secondly, Mueller knew from when he took on the role of special counsel the entire Trump Russia collusion was discredited


8 posted on 12/11/2019 4:02:25 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("itYou can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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And we now know the FISA warrants would have not been approved were it not for the bogus Steele Dossier.

Actually, we DON'T KNOW THIS. That would require a determination from the FISC court.

We do know that various people in at least three layers, as cited by the IG report, SHOULD have acted on the warnings that the dossier had not been vetted.

Throwing about idle speculation on this forum does not improve the information content.

13 posted on 12/11/2019 4:06:27 PM PST by the_Watchman
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no


16 posted on 12/11/2019 4:15:50 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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If Horowitz “exonerated” Comey, et al, Then Mueller exonerated Trump. Can’t have it both ways.


17 posted on 12/11/2019 4:18:31 PM PST by foghornleghorn
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No. It confirmed the deep state coup attempt.


20 posted on 12/11/2019 4:38:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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The glaring missing piece of this entire travesty is the role of the FISA courts. Were the judges actively involved in reviewing the “evidence” presented to them or do they serve as passive rubber stamps?

Secret courts are antithetical to every principle on which this nation was founded and are an extreme violation of our liberty. Did electronic surveillance of every American citizen keep the events at Pensacola last week from happening? Exactly how are secret FISA courts protecting the American people?

Horowitz called the abuses of the FISA processes “errors”. These were “errors” by senior, experience, long term federal employees, not fresh college graduates. Most of those making errors were attorneys or members of law enforcement who should have known what was morally, ethically and legally proper. If these were intentional actions the FISA courts were weaponized are the tyranny the Founding Fathers feared. If the actions were truly a coincidental series of errors, they demonstrate the danger of having an unaccountable secret process not subject to public scrutiny. Since the inept and incompetent cannot detect their errors, outside oversight is clearly needed.

Secrecy, as practiced by modern governments, has very little to do with protecting the people or the nation. It has everything to do with hiding incompetence, protecting the corrupt, and avoiding public scrutiny. Given the sophistication of electronic surveillance today, we can safely assume every government “secret” is known by the Russians, the Chinese, the Israeli’s, western European governments, and the Iranians. Certainly members of the news media are also in the know as well as tens of thousands of government employees.

FISA courts are protecting no one except corrupt and inept government officials. Instead of renewing the Patriot Act, Congress should let it lapse.


21 posted on 12/11/2019 4:39:38 PM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on i)
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