Posted on 12/22/2019 6:44:30 AM PST by karpov
Just what they need... 13th and 14th grade..
And community college has reasonable affordable prices already. Look what happened to the tuition for regular college and costs of health care once government started regulating the costs to "help".
“Thousands of servicemen each year also gain transfer credits through CLEP testing”
And many receive college credit for courses from their job while in Service and/or classes taken in military tech schools.
My kid took advantage of a program where you can skip your high school senior year and do college courses at the community college, with the courses transferring to most 4-year colleges. I'd like to see the government funding follow the high school kid as well.
The best performing students I’ve had are home-schooled and Asian.
Besides free tuition for community colleges, many are pushing for low cost and free housing.
Cloward-Piven. Overload another institution so it collapses.
What you would be adding is more students that are not prepared for college just as the four year schools have.
Students that do not have reading or math skills necessary to succeed in the basic classes.
Their way will produce more dumb down snowflakes incapable on any positive return to society.
Our property tax bills will skyrocket.
If Buttigieg, Sanders and Warren get their way 'college' will become grades 13 through 16. They'll probably make it mandatory AND to save money they'll just expand high schools.
WE ALREADY HAVE FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION... IT'S CALLED K - 12. And it sucks. Among the worst in the world... while our colleges and Universities are among the best.
So, what's the liberal 'solution' to education? Liberal want to extend the failures of K-12 to the University systems. It's insane.
Hadn’t thought of that perspective in a long time. . .very appropriate.
The problem is already “worse”. My wife (fortunately) was on the full time faculty at a community college with decent pay and benefits. However, most all new hires were part-time with no benefits and low pay. Obviously, they had trouble recruiting.
They even offered me a job teaching a night class twice a week. The satellite campus was on the other side of town and the pay was $26 per class. It took me about 5 minutes to decide “hell no”. Given the cost of gas and the time spent on class preparation and grading, I would be better off taking a job at Wendy’s. :D
They will overwhelm the system, and since it is free and they have no skin in the game there will be even more dropouts.
Basically, they are. At the high schools, we teachers are pressured to "find a way to let the student access the curriculum and be successful." (This means cook the books until you can pass at least 70% of your kids.) Mastery grading is the new term for "if you can get them to do it right once while you watch, give them an A and move on." We have a science teacher whose grading scale is: 25% is a D...
Since the demwits want to give everything away for free, why do they demand more $$$$ for their campaigns???
I propose, that as long as these institutions are tax-exempt, they should be required by law to post ALL of their course materials online for anyone in the populace to access. Further, they should be required to post online testing, of the same material and substance that they require of their traditional students, and to confer certificates to those who pass, stating that they have fulfilled the same learning criteria that the traditional students have.
If they don't want to do this, then waive the tax-exempt status.
still wind up without degrees.
This conclusion encapsulates the American Education problem.
Do we go to educational institutions to < get degrees > or to be educated? To learn?
To many people go to K-12 and on to PHD and get degrees. But they are not educated. They don’t know how to do math. They cannot write or read the Business Requirements Document.
Too often people who can read and write are told to slow down for those who can’t. They are told to expect a 5th grade reading level of college graduates.
still wind up without degrees. That thinking is the problem.
TN started this a couple years ago. Funded it, wink wink, by adding tax to premium gas. There should be plenty of data to check the effectiveness of the program.
Even if it didn’t work, the tax still applies. Redistribution in a free state.
It’s really remedial high school. A system of 2 year trade schools as one chpice or a 4 year state school that offers an AA or AS option would be whats needed.
Yes, dating back to at least Bill Clinton we got the brainwashing of “Everyone needs to go to college” and the standards started dropping, then universities hopped on the student loan scam which is an ever expanding cycle of outrageous tuition hikes and financed luxury student lifestyles.
“What? Your college doesn’t have a water park?! What kind of slum is THAT?”
“Some view community colleges as remedial high school.”
Depends on the specific community college and profs.
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