Gunfights that Changed Law Enforcement Tactics

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[FreedomPoster]

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[Bonemaker]

“..to nearby BB & Sales Gun store to acquire rifles to match the ones fired by the suspects..”

Nothing like the heat of a gunfight to decide it’s time to upgrade your weaponry. Did the cops pass the background check and California’s 10 day waiting period?

[subterfuge]

That Hollywood gun battle was epic and terrifying.

[HighSierra5]

I was remodeling an apartment building across the street from the North Hollywood shootout... 6 months earlier. The cops had a chance to arrest those guys earlier when they were pulled over and saw all the weapons in the trunk. You think Cornpop was bad. Those guys were mean with a gun.

[Lurker]

The Platt/Mattix cluster**** in Florida had more to do with the terrible judgement of the FIBs involved than the guns they were using.

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[OKSooner]

Did you get Ayoob’s permission to take his work and post it here, just to pimp your own blog with it?

[Spirochete]

So how did dogs get caught up in these tactics?

[dhs12345]

Paul Harrell on Youtube runs through situations in the past and discussed the failures. Very interesting.

Remember one situation where the police officer's prescription glasses fell off in an ensuing accident.

[mad_as_he$$]

"...The Los Angeles officers who found themselves under a barrage of heavy machine-gun fire from the North Hollywood bank" Ayoob, you should be ashamed of your self.

[Moe G.]

Here in Israel, all police, even traffic, have sub-machine guns... it’s a basic...

[dhs12345]

Interesting too that a car will not provide you with shelter. Well at least protection only near the engine. Almost every caliber (including 22 occasionally) penetrated the car chassis.

[Migraine]

In addition to factors learned in the N Hollywood 1997 shoot, I recall that the officers began shooting a lot of ricochets off the pavement, many of which found homes in perpetrator flesh.

[Arones]

In the aftermath of the tragedy, the FBI phased out revolvers and .38 Special ammunition. Agents were also eventually issued H&K MP5 submachine guns for high-risk encounters.

Once you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

[Arones]

Did you get Ayoob’s permission to take his work and post it here, just to pimp your own blog with it?

Seems like a rehash of this:

5 Gunfights That Changed Law Enforcement May 4, 2011 • by Paul Clinton

[Jed Eckert]

For anyone that is interested here's an interesting analysis of the Miami FBI shootout:

FBI's Miami Firefight-The Ultimate After Action Report

There's also a great book with the forensic analysis of the two felons wounds. Unfortunately the price has gotten absurd. Forensic Analysis Of The April 11, 1986, FBI Firefight

Somewhere online there must be a cheap PDF copy.

[Romans Nine]

Hardly a rehash, a direct ripoff.

Good catch.

[Lurker]

Thanks.

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[Badboo]

The logical extension of the first LEO on the seen must engage, is constitutional carry. So the asswipe politicians who oppose carry, prefer the additional deaths that occur till a cop shows up and actually knows what to do.

The government wants you dead. Turns out the Black Panthers were right.

[bgill]

Don’t bring a bobby stick to a gun fight.