Posted on 04/02/2020 9:17:19 AM PDT by logi_cal869
I am not seeking affirmation or validation of my hypothesis with this post; I merely seek to demonstrate one aspect which is not being discussed ANYWHERE and for which I have convinced a SINGLE PERSON to stow the necessary supplies in their medicine cabinet.
I view that as tragic, but not a failure on my part. I hope my expierience can help someone here at FR.
NOTE:
Propylene Glycol is NOT THE SAME AS Ethylene Glycol.........................
Thanks for that clarification.
Disclaimer: NOT responsible for expression of repressed moron genes in the face of hysterical bias and emotional panic.
Propylene Glycol - Beer will once again save the world.
Its interesting how research into the use of propylene glycol as an air sanitizer was very widespread in the 1930s and 40s, and then somehow just stopped after that.
I just want to prevent another ‘Fish Tank Cleaner’ episode.............
Ethylene Glycol is the main ingredient of ANTIFREEZE and will kill you...........................
Wonder why folks haven’t tried Grapefruit seed extract? It’s a powerful antiviral, etc entity.
Countdown until some ‘tard drinks a bunch of antifreeze. Yeah, propylene glycol != ethylene glycol, but .. ‘tards.
Someone’s gonna have a nightcap with Uncle Chuck. I guarantee it.
Countdown until some ‘tard drinks a bunch of antifreeze. Yeah, propylene glycol != ethylene glycol, but .. ‘tards.
Someone’s gonna have a nightcap with Uncle Chuck. I guarantee it.
I would like to understand why ibuprofen causes issues.
Your lung pain seems to be in roughly the same spot the broken glass effect appears on serious Wuhan cases.
The research you quote is really good. I recall some similar research in the past year and told my wife that we might be getting a vaping setup with propylene glycol to help at home with future flues.
Really good writeup! This is solid, first-hand experience.
Agreed. I was rather taken aback that research seemingly “just stopped” and I couldn’t make any further citation of continuing research. The vaping companies make citation of the noted paper in defense of their products, but no public health application beyond the laboratory has ever been utilized (from what I was able to ascertain).
Thanks for the info.
Would you feel free to hypothesize/detail a mechanism by which the lung disinfection in effected?
Pardon my ignorance. Maybe I have too many ideas about RTI’s.
So glad you are better!
BrianD
I do NOT go into details on the ingredients of vaping juice beyond my citations.
Any moron with bipedal mobility (or assisted) and electrical activity between the ears - coupled with motor skills which include speech - can acquire a safe product which does NOT contain ethylene glycol at any vaping retail store.
There are juices which contain 80/20 & 70/30 blends of Glycerin/Propylene Glycol; the one I borrowed from my wife - as well as the one I purchased later - was of the 80/20 blend and proved highly-effective in the regimen I outline in the post.
IOW I can imagine the disinfectant effect on virions suspended in air, but how on an infection that has taken hold?
Bookmarking this.
This might be what I was remembering:
Vaping may lead to fewer respiratory infections for ex-smokers:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160819084627.htm
Read the linked 1942 paper; it answers your questions in detail. At the time I discovered the paper, I was researching (i.e. “validating”) my wife’s conclusions that vaping was a no-risk alternative to her prior tobacco habit.
At that time the research was NOT being used by the vaping industry in its defense and I surmised that propylene glycol was being used “somewhere/somehow” for public health matters, but life and my book got in the way. I did not follow up until Wuhan Coronavirus started breaking out of China and more details became public as to the insidious nature of its complications, particularly in the lungs. I was taken aback at what appears to be full abandonment of research on propylene glycol beyond its use in the laboratory for sterilization and virus inactivation.
THERE IS NO PHARMACOLOGICAL INTERVENTION which can disinfect the lungs. My hypothesis was merely an office joke in the weeks prior to our illness; time will tell if it was merely coincidental or otherwise.
Just take Miralax and kill two birds with one stone!
Yeah, and watch for some democrat to drink anti freaze, croak and then his wife blames Trump...like the fish tank fool.
The first thing I thought about was the Navy sub and aircraft carrier with COVID19 aboard.
Hopefully this will reach the Navy in time to secure our Navy assets.
Hmmmm. Vaping?Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
The false positive rate was 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old farts life, it's worth it.
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