Posted on 04/02/2020 9:17:19 AM PDT by logi_cal869
I do not recall the conversation, sorry that I can be a grouch sometimes. We were the first in the country to have deaths from the coronavirus at the Life Care Center in Kirkland. Both my wife and I have been frequent visitors there for years...
Fortunately the situation here has improved dramatically in the last week or so, before the governors “stay at home order” could have had any effect. In East King County the deaths have dropped off to almost nothing and the hospital intensive care units have gone back to normal... even as the rest of the state and the rest of the country started getting worse. The total “cases” in the state has dropped us from number 1 to number 10. Strangely, as soon as this was noticed by the media, the state department of health said that they were having a software glitch and stopped reporting the numbers. The politicians are worried that if things improve here dramatically the billions in aid they are counting on getting from the Federal Government might dry up.
A month ago I was catching a lot of flack for saying that this was more than a hoax. These days I catch it when I make the observation that the government is over reacting in horrible and ineffective ways. I am always offending someone.
We have 9 deaths in Benton/Franklin county now; long-term care overrepresented here also.
Ya know, I initially dwelled upon whether to focus solely upon the illness vs vaping, but then I got so many “were you tested?” questions the symptoms became obligatory.
Local hospitals in our area are sending patients HOME without testing if they go to the hospital ER with COVID symptoms and do not require hospitalization.
So there’s NO WAY lil’ ol’ me is going to get a test since I 1. Don’t have celebrity money, 2. Don’t have a doctor “friend” to request it.
I think it’s important to note (my bowel symptoms) due to the fact that outside of China, it’s not being discussed as a vector. Only asymptomatic “super-spreaders” are thought to be spreading the virus and the so-called “experts” believe a person is virus-free anytime between 2-12 days post-illness. If it’s in the bowels, a person remains potentially-infectious...especially among demographics/cultures which practice poor hygiene. And even discounting poor hygiene, it helps to know that a person may still be infectious (until it’s proven by labs one way or the other).
Unfortunately, senior care facilities and daycares may have a tough time with this.
I get ya, but in that case, if it’s diarrhea, (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830614/posts?page=653#642) in this post I mention the news I got this morning that my 25 year old niece likely has COVID and she did mention diarrhea as one symptom.
Maybe I missed it but I didn’t catch the name of your bowel condition. Won’t come out or can’t keep it in are the two common ones and I’m sure we’ve all had them. In any case, mention of the particulars are always good and my LOL was just a joke, considering the subject.
I had forgotten that you were also in Washington. The half million Chinese people who live in East King County, many of whom visit home often, are most likely why we were hit first. Now it has run its course through the community and is slowing down. The rest of the country is behind us but if we are any indication the worst case scenarios are greatly exaggerated. Although places like New York that have people packed tightly together with many using mass transit which creates similar conditions to Wuhan China.
Diarrhea was atypical for my wife during her 48-hour illness (she vapes, but is in denial that it helped).
I had none until AFTER my fever broke for about 2 days, with pronounced flatulence and loose stool for over another week. No non-food illness has EVER had such an effect upon me. It continued until I megadosed with C, something I learned prior (long story, not relevant).
C doesn’t wipe out the biome or damage the villi, but can be toxic to pathogenic parasites, including viruses. So far so good (much improved). One more round this weekend.
Can’t point toward documentation, but ran across a discussion of a dissection of lung tissue from a CV victim. They mentioned the accumulations within the alveoli were partly caused by a lack of surfactant production, a lack upon the lung tissue surface in contact with air.
Surfactants lower the surface tension of lung surfaces so as to reduce the mechanical energy expended in inhalation. They lower the binding of contaminants to the tissue surface. Other processes work to clear inhaled debris from the lung passages. Something suggesting a place to begin digging.
One point of interest: There is a statistical probability that my wife gave it to me, despite the fact that I got sick first. I assign this on the basis of the fact that she vapes and could have pushed back symptom development until after my illness manifested.
Absent that possibility, I have NO IDEA where I got it from. My territory is a hospital and my level of studious care to prevent picking up an unwanted bug - norovirus is high on my list to prevent...a much more unpleasant bug than SARS-CoV-2 - is quite extreme.
In short, my stance is that if “I” got it, EVERYBODY is going to get it.
And yes, some will die (I now concede 100k is a possibility due to the nature of impaired health in this country...a discussion about which I will not have here other than to say that perhaps most of them should have done something for themselves years ago).
bkmk
Irony. Just this morning:
Do you have any recommendations for vaping equipment? Until yesterday I had not considered the possibility that I would want to do it. I thought of asking you privately, but if you post and cause a shortage...you’ll know that people are listening to you. I have emailed your link to several of my friends...maybe life-saving, maybe not. I like the better odds with things rejected by the AMA. (like colloidal silver...a terrific antiseptic. see silverEdge.com to make your own)
No recommendations except the pictured vaping juice (it’s pleasant). The bottle can be shared with at least one other (I shared half of mine; it’s a LOT of vaping juice for the described use).
Other than the sage advice “don’t buy cheap” (middle-road hardware) and don’t over-charge the pen.
The advantage here is that one vaping pen can service an entire family. IMHO, it’s going to become a part of medicine cabinet stock at some point in the future. The next time I’m afflicted with an RTI of another type, I’ll vape to eradicate the infection, prevent complications and speed recovery (antibodies result without regard to the vaping, I am confident to state).
Spot-on re the AMA. The intransigence of those in the medical community with whom I’ve spoken privately is cultural. Even my RN sister who still asks me of my now-eradicated gut parasite (Candida), “Who diagnosed you?”
BTW, and make sure that you have a backup charging cable somewhere and keep one WITH the device (it’s worthless unless you can charge it and a little-used device - save for illness - is likely to have accessories go missing; most people with mobile devices have multiple cables which also fit many vaping pens).
Thanks LC, our Oregon governor outlawed a lot of vaping stuff (you know, gateway to marijuana ... wait that is legal here, so what’s the point?) and I think most/all those shops are gone. Now I have to make a point of looking for them.
Thanks for a great post!
It was written very well, and it was informative.
I an a Medical Technician-I dispense medication
in the skilled unit at my facility.
I am somewhat concerned with you still having
diarrhea at this stage.
I think I read that you have IBS?
High dosed of vitamin C will make you go-a lot!
I would back off of it for now.
Please also be aware that anything real sugary will also make it worse, as will caffeine, and nicotine.
They are irritating to the bowels!
After you and your wife have been so sick, might I suggest
thst you by some Smart Water?
It has electrolytes in it and will help you get back on track. Again, do NOT drink Gator Ade (sp?) or any sports drinks while you are having loose stools.
Ibuprofen is a good med, but it is hard on the kidneys.
That is why doctors don’t recommend it over Tylenol.
Read more here:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-nsaids-ibuprofen/
Yeah, I know it is Snopes, but what they are saying is true.
All my best to you!
Ms.B
No, no diarrhea, the term of which only manifested post-fever for about 2 days, if memory serves. Only unusual loose stool and flatulence since that time.
Having taken a full year to successfully-eradicate an intestinal parasite of fungal origin after over 1000 hours of research and 250k words of writing, I’m pretty well learned on matters of the gut.
Prior to illness, no digestive or intestinal issues whatsoever. I’ve never experienced IBS. However, C megadosing in intervals proved helpful in my eradication regimen. It is also having a positive cause/effect here without defaulting to something which may prove compromising to my microbiome. After a norovirus experience last year, I’ve diligently-rebuilt my gut and don’t care to lose that protection unless absolutely necessary. I’ve read with interest the use of Ivermectin to cure patients, but I’m so far out of the symptomatic loop it’s merely ‘interest’. C is working well and I’ll update next week just for the sake of it having “passed” (pun intended).
I so appreciate the nod and the tips, but preaching to the choir here. I just hope I can help someone else. Such is the motivation for my 4 unpublished books as well, which now included a planned chapter from this experience.
I’m well aware of her hypocrisy (the tainted vape juice came from a licensed cannabis dispensary, not a vape shop; I’m in OR, too).
They’re around, trust me. Not as easy to find as a pot store on every corner in some cities, but they’re still everywhere.
Bookmark.
Interesting read.
I came back to your thread to post this:
Last night I woke up thinking about this whole mess.
Then I remembered the fever-pitched panicked calls to “STOP VAPING” from last Fall. People will DIE from vaping! Commercials, politicians, etc. The campaign to outlaw vaping was in the highest gear I’ve ever seen it, and I’ve been vaping for over 10 years. We actually got vape-shamed during that time, with people we’ve never met lecturing us on how vaping will kill us (even though we were in open space, outdoors).
This massive push to ban vaping happened in the run-up to this current COVID-19 situation.
As I could not sleep last night, I had to wonder if Propylene Glycol (PG) could in fact be helpful and that is why it was attacked right before this Wuhan Nightmare unfolded.
Thanks again for your very informative post. I hope more people read it.
So you’re asserting that the whole vaping thing last year (re the deaths) was instigated to possibly get the feds to ban vaping wholesale or panic the public into quitting?
I hadn’t posited that scenario but, in consideration of my other theories as to this “virus crisis” and the nature of asymmetric warfare - inserting a toxic ingredient into the supply chain fits that bill - I don’t believe that your point cannot be ignored.
I even wrote separately about the vaping thing at the end of September...which just so happens to be the timeframe under which genetic researchers have traced the origin of the virus’ jump to humans and - curiously - the same timeframe under which Google & Wiki searches cited as “blips” re search terms for coronavirus and SARS.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3845388/posts
Frankly, it would explain why ALL of my outreach to doctors was met with a total wall of silence. I even reached out to Dr. Savage - yeah, I know.
All for naught. There are too many coincidences to mark the origin of this crisis as merely ‘natural’, imho. Yours is yet another.
“Curious”, indeed.
bkmk
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