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To: bagster

not easy to find online for some reason, but Prime Minister Boris Johnson in UK used the Ferguson/Imperial model in his speech to the Nation last night:

11 May: Daily Mail: Boris Johnson claims the UK will test ‘hundreds of thousands of people every day’ – despite ministers FAILING to hit 100,000 tests a day target for eight days in a row
(scroll down) Boris Johnson’s speech in full: Prime Minister’s lockdown address to the nation
And though we grieve for all those we have lost, it is a fact that by adopting those measures we prevented this country from being engulfed by what could have been a catastrophe in which the ***REASONABLE worst case scenario was half a million fatalities...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8305471/Boris-Johnson-claims-UK-testing-literally-hundreds-thousands-people-day.html

massive piece of propaganda from Reuters, but full of interesting timeline re Ferguson, other scientists:

7 Apr: Reuters: Special Report: Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm
by Stephen Grey, Andrew MacAskill; Additional reporting by Elizabeth Piper in London, Gabriela Baczynska in Brussels
At first, when NERVTAG met on January 13, it studied information from China that there was “no evidence of significant human to human transmission” of the new virus, according to minutes of the meeting. The scientists agreed the risk to the UK population was “very low.”...

On January 21, scientists on NERVTAG endorsed the elevation of the UK risk warning from COVID-19 from “very low” to “low.” SAGE met formally for the first time the following day about the coronavirus threat. So did COBRA, which was chaired by Matt Hancock, the health secretary, who would contract the virus himself in late March. He told reporters after the meeting: “The clinical advice is that the risk to the public remains low.”...

Then, on Friday the 21st (JANUARY), came a death in Italy and a bloom of cases in Lombardy and Veneto regions. Britain has close links to both countries. Thousands of Britons were holidaying in Italy that week...
Indeed, the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, SAGE, had recommended that day, with no dissension recorded in its summary, that the UK reject a China-style lockdown. SAGE decided that “implementing a subset of measures would be ideal,” according to a record of its conclusions. Tougher measures could create a “large second epidemic wave once the measures were lifted,” SAGE said...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-path-speci/special-report-johnson-listened-to-his-scientists-about-coronavirus-but-they-were-slow-to-sound-the-alarm-idUSKBN21P1VF


4 posted on 05/11/2020 1:31:54 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

for Boris Johnson:

10 May: Daily Mail: Has our mad mass house arrest during Covid-19 saved even a single life?
by Peter Hitchens
I have yet to see any reason to believe that throttling the economy and imposing mass house arrest have saved a single life. Deaths from Covid-19 peaked and began to decline in this country on April 8, a decline far too soon to have been brought about by the Johnson Panic of March 23...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8303715/PETER-HITCHENS-mad-mass-house-arrest-Covid-19-saved-single-life.html


6 posted on 05/11/2020 1:35:50 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

btw Brits weren’t the only ones holiday in Italy when Chinese were still flying in and out:

28 Feb updated 16 Mar: The Local Sweden: What you need to know about the coronavirus in Sweden
But like many European countries, Sweden experienced a second and larger ‘wave’ of cases linked to the outbreak of the virus in Italy, the country hardest hit in Europe.
Sweden’s second case, a man in Gothenburg who fell ill after visiting Italy, was confirmed on February 26th. After that, the number of cases grew with many linked to Sweden’s February winter sports holidays, which many families spend in ski resorts including in the (Italian Alps.

By mid-March, just under half of the infections in Sweden were linked to recent travel to Italy, and many others were due to travel or direct contact with people who have the virus, with other countries including Iran, Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, Portugal, and the United States...
https://www.thelocal.se/20200228/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-coronavirus-in-sweden

the other reason Sweden has more deaths than other Scandinavian countries:

10 May: Yahoo: Sweden admits failure to protect elderly in care homes
by Pia OHLIN, Agence-France Presse
Sweden, whose softer approach to the coronavirus has garnered international attention, admits it has failed to adequately protect the elderly, with around half of COVID-19 deaths occurring among nursing home residents...
Reports have flooded Swedish media in recent weeks of care home staff continuing to work despite a lack of protective gear...
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sweden-admits-failure-protect-elderly-care-homes-024202425—spt.html


7 posted on 05/11/2020 1:54:22 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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