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To: PAUL09

And “Nazi Operated”????

While SOME German Kreigsmarine personnel were probably die-hard National Socialists, this piece of equipment was a standard-issue cryptographic device used on the U-Boats; hence, German naval personnel operated it, the majority of whom were probably just sailors performing their normal duties.

Words mean things.


17 posted on 12/15/2020 9:01:39 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

And the early 3-Rotor machines were used by Germany & German private corporations to encrypt radio traffic in the interwar years. Polish intelligence agents realized that a variation of that basic machine was serving with the German armed forces and set about working on the mathematics involved in solving the internal workings. Poland’s misfortune was being invaded only a very short time after their work was completed. They did, however, manage to get their work along with an example of the machine to the British & French.


21 posted on 12/15/2020 9:14:23 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: NFHale
While SOME German Kreigsmarine personnel were probably die-hard National Socialists, this piece of equipment was a standard-issue cryptographic device used on the U-Boats; hence, German naval personnel operated it, the majority of whom were probably just sailors performing their normal duties.

It's interesting distinction you are making here, but I'm not sure I understand it.

Would you not call the Red Army "communists" either, after all probably many of the soliders in the Red Army were just Russian (or Belarussians, etc.) who were conscripted.

In typical usage we say that "the Nazis attacked Poland in 1939", etc. In a totalitarian regime was there really any difference between being a Nazi and being a non-Nazi member of the German military? How about volunteers vs. conscripts? Would it be fair to call volunteers "Nazis"?

Looking at German insignia of WW2, almost every military award (like the Iron Cross) incorporates the swastika.

It seems to me that you are making a distinction without a difference, and that anyone fighting as part of the German armed forces in the period of WW2 can quite properly be called a Nazi.

32 posted on 12/15/2020 9:58:43 AM PST by Vlad0
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To: NFHale

Didn’t all German military forces swear an oath of allegiance directly to Hitler?


57 posted on 12/15/2020 11:48:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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