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To: A.M. Smith

More dishonest editorializing of VAERS data. If you give a vaccine to someone who’s on their death bed, it goes into VAERS - by law - when they die. We did a lot of that at the start of the year. Tens of millions of seniors were given first dibs on the vaccines after healthcare workers. And 84% of them have taken it. Older people die every single day from all sorts of things, but when they die after getting a vaccine - regardless of the cause of death - it’s recorded in VAERS.

Every death has a medical investigation to determine the cause. To date, zero medical investigations have determined that a COVID-19 vaccine has caused ANY death in the United States. Not a single one. Those investigations are performed by doctors and medical examiners; not some Federal bureaucrat. And those doctors and medical examiners are located in all different parts of the country and have all different political and social views. Yet the one thing they can all agree on is that they haven’t seen a single case where a COVID-19 vaccine caused a patient’s death.


6 posted on 05/14/2021 11:47:29 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
More dishonest editorializing of VAERS data. If you give a vaccine to someone who’s on their death bed, it goes into VAERS - by law - when they die.

Sure.

And someone with stage 4 lung cancer, who is in hospice, and who tests positive for COVID, if that person dies -- it's a COVID death, right?

10 posted on 05/14/2021 11:50:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

why won’t you practice what your tagline preaches???...


13 posted on 05/14/2021 11:52:37 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

How many of these deaths have now been investigated?


15 posted on 05/14/2021 11:55:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Every death has a medical investigation to determine the cause.

No way that could be corrupted with all the money flowing around. Sheesh!

COVID
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Heart attack (COVID)
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19 posted on 05/14/2021 12:00:25 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
More dishonest editorializing of VAERS data.

At least you state your disinfo intentions at the start of your post.

If you give a vaccine to someone who’s on their death bed, it goes into VAERS - by law - when they die. We did a lot of that at the start of the year.

And you think that's normal? I saw those in hospice who died after being avaccinated. WHO vaccinates people in hospice?

It's not just people on their deathbeds who are dying though. And whatever you want to say about vaxxing those on their deathbeds, it can't explain away the fact that almost 20% of all adverse events listed for vaccines in the VAERS database are for Covid-19 'vaccines'. 

Consider that the CDC isn't even publishing to VAERS most of the reports they've received, and when the CDC does update VAERS with new records, they are primarily records from December and January. In early april the CDC had only published 25% of the reports it had actually received. They are hiding the truth. 

Remember, only about 1% of adverse events are even reported to the CDC in the first place.

Tens of millions of seniors were given first dibs on the vaccines after healthcare workers. And 84% of them have taken it. Older people die every single day from all sorts of things, but when they die after getting a vaccine - regardless of the cause of death - it’s recorded in VAERS.

Seniors get the flu vaccines too. C'mon there's no excuse for the epic levels of death and harm (strokes, heart attacks, paralysis) for the Covid-19 vaccine reports in VAERS. In fact, deaths in seniors are being ignored ("he was old" "it was just her time) when they should be investigated.

WARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"

Every death has a medical investigation to determine the cause. To date, zero medical investigations have determined that a COVID-19 vaccine has caused ANY death in the United States. Not a single one. Those investigations are performed by doctors and medical examiners; not some Federal bureaucrat. And those doctors and medical examiners are located in all different parts of the country and have all different political and social views. Yet the one thing they can all agree on is that they haven’t seen a single case where a COVID-19 vaccine caused a patient’s death.

That's the smoking gun right there. The CDC used untrained, unnamed staff at the FDA to rubber stamp all deaths even though they couldn't possibly have completed a thorough review during the brief time they claimed to investigate, and even though the number of deaths they would have to review are far more than any other vaccine review in the past. (information in the following link)

COVID Vaccine Killing Huge Numbers, Warns Leading Doctor – Liberty Sentinel [32 minute video]

Normally, a vaccine would be pulled LONG before we had the number of deaths VAERS reports for COvid-19 vaccines, and VAERS only has less than 25% of reports of harm the CDC has received.

Physicians are waving the red flag worldwide, but the CDC is fully compromised (funded by Bill Gates, George Soros and others through the CDC Foundation):

Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC [Public Statement of Dr. Janic Chunn Lindsay to CDC Advisory Committee April 23, 2021]

Israeli People Committee’s Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body

Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit

MODERNA Vaccine Wreaks Havoc on Lytton BC and Local Doctor Blows Whistle! (BANNED ON YOUTUBE!)


22 posted on 05/14/2021 12:06:34 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I was also thinking of Rates not Absolute numbers, as part of the story. You’ve brought in the fact that the first and most widely penetrated demographic was the most fragile. Pretty sure this is worth noting. Thanks for adding critical thinking and ideas to the convo.

Sorry about the ad hominem, strawman and other logical diversions you’ll be getting. I am waiting for the No True Scotsman argument.

Best


36 posted on 05/14/2021 12:48:01 PM PDT by Strident (< null >)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Are these the same medical examiners that are listing deaths WITH COVID as deaths FROM COVID. Similar example, guy got in a Motorcycle accident and died. Post-mortem test indicated he had COVID. Cause of death was listed as COVID.


41 posted on 05/14/2021 1:01:19 PM PDT by RainMan (Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

‘Older people die every single day from all sorts of things, but when they die after getting a vaccine - regardless of the cause of death - it’s recorded in VAERS.’

which is almost exactly the same argument I used on you regarding covid lethality numbers being juiced because of the ages of those dying, and you referred to me as a Cuomo acolyte, grossly indifferent to the value of a senior’s life...

for the record, I agree with your take on vaccines, with some caveats...of course, on forums like this one, if there were not something for the commentariat to fuss and bother about, tossing theories around like confetti, well, the day would be exceptionally boring, wouldn’t it...?


50 posted on 05/14/2021 1:14:52 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Every death is investigated”.


Not really. Sure, a doctor has to sign a death certificate, but very few deaths require autopsies, and would the average pathologist even know how to search for death by vaccine? Especially since we don’t even KNOW what all the vaccine side effects are?
Not only that, but the whole business is a political football, which leads to situations such as the George Floyd case, where we now know that the pathologist was basically forced to lie about Floyd having signs of having died due to a knee on his neck, when he actually had no such thing.


59 posted on 05/14/2021 2:14:07 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“f you give a vaccine to someone who’s on their death bed, it goes into VAERS - by law - when they die. “

BS. Show me that law. When someone claims “There is a law”, then they can show it. Give the legal citation of that law.

You are always so full of poop on covid. When someone dies from falling from an airplane you claim is it fair to call it a covid death but if they die within hours of getting the vaccine you claim it is unfair to say they died from the vaccine.


62 posted on 05/14/2021 2:39:19 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Well, thats pretty much how we got here in the first place: almost any death was recorded as Wuhan flu whether it was or not.

By those same dr.s with no axe to grind.


68 posted on 05/15/2021 12:03:00 PM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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