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Why Free Community College Solves The Wrong Problem
James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal ^ | September 17, 2021 | Preston Cooper

Posted on 09/17/2021 7:21:47 AM PDT by karpov

House Democrats have released their draft plan to make free community college a reality across much of the country, at a price tag of over $100 billion. The obsession with a zero sticker price for community college is odd, given that community colleges are already one of the most affordable sectors of America’s higher-education system. Average tuition is less than $4,000 per year, and after existing financial aid is applied, the typical student pays no tuition at all.

The more pressing concern at community colleges is not the price of admission, but what that tuition payment is buying students.

Most students say the top reason for pursuing higher education is increasing their earnings power. Some programs at community colleges will help them realize that potential. Consider the A.S. in Registered Nursing degree at California’s College of the Sequoias. According to federal government data, graduates of this program will earn a median salary of $81,400—well above the U.S. median income and even most four-year college degrees.

Nationwide, more than 94 percent of community college associate’s degrees in registered nursing yield median salaries of $50,000 or more. Career-oriented fields in health care and manufacturing are usually good choices for students who want to see a financial return on their educational investment. But America’s community college sector is not a uniformly powerful engine of upward mobility.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: communitycollege; freecollege
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1 posted on 09/17/2021 7:21:47 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

The price of buying votes and destroying America is way up!


2 posted on 09/17/2021 7:25:42 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: karpov

If everyone has a college degree, then no one has a college degree.


3 posted on 09/17/2021 7:25:53 AM PDT by fwdude (If you don’t think you are in a battle w/ the culture for your children then you are already losing.)
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To: karpov
OK, somewhere along the line I've lost all contact with the english language.

"...free community college..." and "...a price tag of over $100 billion..." seems to pretty much undefine the word "free."

4 posted on 09/17/2021 7:27:27 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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To: budj

“Free-ish”


5 posted on 09/17/2021 7:30:07 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: karpov

Counties & states subsidize CC’s.

No need for the Fed Gov to fund CC’s.

CC is already practically free (and sometimes completely free), especially for students who receive financial aid.


6 posted on 09/17/2021 7:30:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: karpov

It takes two years of Community College to bring most students up to eighth grade proficiency.


7 posted on 09/17/2021 7:34:38 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: budj

You will never get elected if you continue to harp in common sense.


8 posted on 09/17/2021 7:35:27 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: BBQToadRibs2

CNN - “Mostly free”


9 posted on 09/17/2021 7:35:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: fwdude

I understand what you are saying but there is a huge demand for vocational education programs that are NOT taught in high schools or typical 4 year college programs.

I know the president of the local community college here in NH. It was formerly called the NH Vocational Technical College.

Their program in automotive body work is sponsored by several local automotive dealerships. Every person coming out of the program has a job. Some of the local car dealers pay for kids to go through the program.

In addition, they are trying to get an airplane mechanic program. An air traffic controller program. Even a airplane pilot program. Another program they are trying to develop is welding.

So, no I do not think community college should be free for ALL programs. We certainly do not need more Gender Studies graduates. We need more DIRTY JOBS graduates.


10 posted on 09/17/2021 7:36:43 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

2 years? That’s why the community colleges should go on the trimester system. Too much time off for spring/summer and holiday breaks. Make it national and make free just the certificate programs. RN’s in 2 years? I thought it was 3-4.


11 posted on 09/17/2021 7:38:01 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Community colleges are too laid back. The transition after high school should be more serious. Adult world now awaits. A 40 hour/wk job may be too much for a 20 year old certificate holder but a shorter work week at the start would be good for young folks that need their hang-out time with friends. Doable.


12 posted on 09/17/2021 7:42:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: woodbutcher1963

I’m all in favor of vocational training for those who really want it. But it cannot be watered down to the lowest common denominator level of the dumbest student.

And students have to be invested in it. Free education is a death knell to that education.


13 posted on 09/17/2021 7:58:03 AM PDT by fwdude (If you don’t think you are in a battle w/ the culture for your children then you are already losing.)
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To: karpov

Let’s start handing out titles, too!

I wanna be a Duke.

“Duke Duke Duke Duke of Earl”


14 posted on 09/17/2021 8:31:02 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6

I prefer daisy duke ...


15 posted on 09/17/2021 8:33:48 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Welders are in such demand here in North Idaho that recent vo-tech grads can be making $100,000 per year not long after graduation. And the shops still can’t find good welders to hire.


16 posted on 09/17/2021 8:42:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: karpov

Community colleges offer more than just nuursing degrees. They offer associates degrees in engineering, aerospace, avionics, and other degrees in scientific pursuits.

I aggregated the necessary points for my AS degree in Avionics/Aerospace Technology, from Victor Valley College, San Bernardino Community College, and the Community College of the Air Force.


17 posted on 09/17/2021 8:45:34 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: woodbutcher1963

The big problem with Gender Studies, White Privilege Studies, Toxic Masculinity Studies, and Radical Feminism is those grads have zero marketable skills and all they can do with it is become “activists” and lead BLM marches or teach the same agitprop crap to other rubes.

The problem is that people like Patrisse Marie Khan-Cullors Brignac get filthy rich at it and buy four houses in luxury neighborhoods in Los Angeles. Or grifters like Obama are able to buy a $20 million palace on 30 acres in Martha’s Vineyard.


18 posted on 09/17/2021 8:47:19 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: bankwalker

How do you know?

I might look really good in cutoff jeans.

…………………………..

OK

You’re right.


19 posted on 09/17/2021 8:59:47 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Don Corleone

My wife insisted on getting a 2 year degree in Child Care s she could go from a lucrative job programming to min. wage. She wanted to take care of our kids & get paid before they went to school. She wanted to continue on and get a four year degree in Child Care to continue getting paid minimum wage. Told her absolutely not.

Similarly, my son wanted to go to Univ. of N. Dakota to become a pilot. Told him I wasn’t going to sign a $200k loan for a $30k a year job. We had a neighbor who was a pilot and he told my son if that was his dream to join the military and let Uncle Sam teach you.


20 posted on 09/17/2021 10:38:09 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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