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New Vehicle Sales Plunge As Prices Soar Amid Supply Chain Chaos, Chip Shortages, & Depleted Inventories
Zubu Brothers ^ | 10-5-2021 | Wolf Richter via WolfStreet.com,

Posted on 10/05/2021 4:03:38 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 10/05/2021 4:03:38 PM PDT by blam
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Too many CEOs worried about being Woke.


2 posted on 10/05/2021 4:05:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: blam

I was getting an oil change at the Toyota Dealership today. Normally, they have at least one of each model in the showroom, but today they had mostly Toyota Tundras, one Corolla and one crossover. No Camry, No RAV 4 no Sienna, certainly no Avalon (Toyota never gives the Avalon any love).


3 posted on 10/05/2021 4:09:16 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Gene Eric

Who needs a car when you are sitting home getting welfare.


4 posted on 10/05/2021 4:10:04 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: blam

Took my Genesis in for service the other day, and the “used car area” at the dealer was EMPTY. E M P T Y. Not a single car on it. I rapped with the salesmen who were just sitting around (as there are very few cars to sale, and chatting with me helped them pass the time), and they pointed at what they had “We got 1 of these, but I think it’s already sold. We got one Santa Fe, it’s sold, just waiting for the guy to come get it. We have one Santa Cruz that’s not spoken for! You wanna see it?” We walked over and looked at it. We walked back, a few minutes later it’s driven up front. Someone had just made a deal for it over the internet, they would be over to get it in an hour.

For the record, ALL of their new cars had “Dealer adjustment” markups on them. On these Hyundai cars/trucks, it was $4995.

So, this being the story, I’m not surprised that sales have started to tank. #1, you can’t FIND what you want. You have to settle. #2, if you DO find it, the pricing is outrageous, and you’d better buy it RIGHT NOW. (smh)


5 posted on 10/05/2021 4:13:07 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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“General Motors reported that sales in the third quarter plunged by 33% year-over-year, and by 39% from two years ago, to 446,997 vehicles”

This doesn’t surprise me at all. I was once a GM customer, who grew up in a family of GM customers. Chevys, Buicks. Even an occasional Oldsmobile or Saturn. Once upon a time, they were a full-spectrum automaker which cars and trucks for every taste and budget. Gradually, though, GM evolved into a rather pricy truck and SUV outfit... which is fine is that’s what is profitable for them. But when you abandon a sizable chunk of your customer base, it follows that your unit volume is going to tank.

And, of course, I know that they still have vehicles that are outside the truck/SUV spectrum, e.g., the Corvette and a handful of Cadillac sedans, but those are outliers.


6 posted on 10/05/2021 4:16:02 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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“General Motors reported that sales in the third quarter plunged by 33% year-over-year, and by 39% from two years ago, to 446,997 vehicles”

This doesn’t surprise me at all. I was once a GM customer, who grew up in a family of GM customers. Chevys, Buicks. Even an occasional Oldsmobile or Saturn. Once upon a time, they were a full-spectrum automaker which cars and trucks for every taste and budget. Gradually, though, GM evolved into a rather pricy truck and SUV outfit... which is fine is that’s what is profitable for them. But when you abandon a sizable chunk of your customer base, it follows that your unit volume is going to tank.

And, of course, I know that they still have vehicles that are outside the truck/SUV spectrum, e.g., the Corvette and a handful of Cadillac sedans, but those are outliers.


7 posted on 10/05/2021 4:16:02 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: FrankRizzo890

I enjoy Doordashing to supplement my retirement income. My 2011 Prius has 300,000 miles on it so I went used car shopping for a relatively decent used hybrid. Uh...no. $16,000 average price for a ten year old or older car. A year or so ago these same cars would have been about $4,500 dollars.


8 posted on 10/05/2021 4:17:58 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: dblshot
Who needs a car when you are sitting home getting welfare.

What about the phrase "beer run?"

Also, I believe it's line 14,979 of the new spending bill that says all here illegally ("undocumented residents") shall be awarded one new vehicle of value not less than $20,000 for purposes of transportation to and from their Section 8 paid house or apartment.

Kidding. I think!

9 posted on 10/05/2021 4:18:10 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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Bought a new Genesis in August. It was like nothing else. Dealers are in complete control. You want it. Full sticker and they add on about 2k in after market garbage. Don’t want it? Sucks to be you. Next.


10 posted on 10/05/2021 4:19:33 PM PDT by Obadiah (Truth is treason in an empire of lies.)
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To: blam

Threats about the future of gasoline-powered cars might also be making people hesitant to buy. On the other hand, it might make them eager to buy while they still can.


11 posted on 10/05/2021 4:23:00 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: blam

gezz, they destroyed probably a million jobs with this Wuhan cockn’bull Commie charade and now they wonder why new cars are not selling.


12 posted on 10/05/2021 4:25:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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There are indications that many potential buyers have had enough of this circus and stopped looking.

That's me.

Been shopping for a new car for over 6 months. Can't find what Ii want, and when they do have something to sell, it has to be transported from some other dealer of the same make. I don't trust that process and I wouldn't have seen the vehicle before driving it or before buying it.

Will have to wait for the chip 'crisis' to end and perhaps then I can get what I want. I'll have to keep maintaining my current vehicle until it dies or I get something new or almost new.

BTW. the new car dealers have turned into used car lots, and most of them ain't worth spending money on.
13 posted on 10/05/2021 4:25:18 PM PDT by adorno
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My Toyota dealer is pushing used trucks.


14 posted on 10/05/2021 4:25:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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I’m buying my next car in Mexico


15 posted on 10/05/2021 4:27:46 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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The large local dealer has a huge back lot area which can hold hundreds of new and used cars—pre Covid it was packed to the gills.

Today—zero—nothing—not new, not used, nothing.

Never seen anything like it—the size of a football field.


16 posted on 10/05/2021 4:28:44 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Rolled by the Ford dealer located out on the interstate the other day. Total ghostown. A smattering of vehicles across the parking lot. Gotta be a funny feeling for some of those employees to go to work every day and have nothing to do.
 
 

17 posted on 10/05/2021 4:30:42 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: freepertoo
The biggest reason for the high prices of used cars these days is that the cars actually exist. The same can’t be said for new cars.

I’m surprised to see this report and these various posts about very high prices on new cars. The dealership where I bought my company truck two years ago sends me a mailer every month where they offer to sell me a 2021 model for the same price as the old one. The only stipulation is that the old one has to be included in the deal as a trade-in.

I suspect what’s happening is that they’re looking to get these deals signed and deposits paid on remaining 2021 inventory that are sitting in a lot outside a plant somewhere and won’t have the final assembly done for another 6+ months due to the chip shortage.

18 posted on 10/05/2021 4:31:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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On these Hyundai cars/trucks, it was $4995.

Do you mean $4995 ABOVE the MSRP?

19 posted on 10/05/2021 4:31:54 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: blam

I have given up on buying a new truck. My current vehicle only has 30K miles on it. My daily only has 56K and my other Jeep 180K. I am good to go for another 10 years without replacing one.

I am 100% remote, so I do not drive much anymore.


20 posted on 10/05/2021 4:57:03 PM PDT by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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