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Dan Bongino has a breakthrough case of Covid19
WMAL ^ | November 29th, 2021 | Dan Bongino

Posted on 11/29/2021 9:28:11 AM PST by shadowlands1960

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To: deweyfrank

It’s been known for some time that the vaccines give those with natural immunity a sort of “super immunity”:

“Not long after countries began rolling out vaccines, researchers started noticing unique properties of the vaccine responses of people who had previously caught and recovered from COVID-19. “We saw that the antibodies come up to these astronomical levels that outpace what you get from two doses of vaccine alone,” says Rishi Goel, an immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who is part of a team studying super-immunity — or ‘hybrid immunity’, as most scientists call it.

Initial studies of people with hybrid immunity found that their serum — the antibody-containing portion of blood — was far better able to neutralize immune-evading strains, such as the Beta variant identified in South Africa, and other coronaviruses, compared with ‘naive’ vaccinated individuals who had never encountered SARS-CoV-22. It wasn’t clear whether this was just due to the high levels of neutralizing antibodies, or to other properties.”

Read more here: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x


21 posted on 11/29/2021 9:53:04 AM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: shadowlands1960
We had unvaccinated (for personal reasons) family come down with COVID. They had lost taste for a week and nearly black semicircles under their eyes. We urged them to get monoclonal therapy.

They tested CLEAN, via antigen test twice within 6 days of the treatment. They got their taste back about two weeks after treatment.

We were directly exposed, even sharing food on occasion and never caught it, going on 3 weeks. At least so far but we will test if we get sick any time soon.

22 posted on 11/29/2021 9:53:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: FreeReign
This might help answer your question...

More on Original Antigenic Sin and the Folly of Our Universal Vaccination Campaign A deeper look at a decisive limitation of our adaptive immune systems.

23 posted on 11/29/2021 9:55:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: shadowlands1960

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24 posted on 11/29/2021 9:55:31 AM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: shadowlands1960

Note that Chris Plante lives in the DC metro area and broadcasts from the WMAL studios, whereas, Dan Bongino lives in and broadcasts from southern Florida. Thus they don’t share the same set of studios. Yes, this seems obvious to some, but probably not known to others.


25 posted on 11/29/2021 9:55:41 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Qiviut

“He did get the “vax” because it was strongly recommended by his oncologist(s) at the time he was being treated for cancer and he took their advice.”

In spite of people like this man with a serious disease/cancer being recommended to have the vaccines.

The real world might be telling us not to vaccinate these people.

It seems like those of us ages 70/75+ with manageable diseases seem to do okay with the vaccinations and even the boosters in most cases.


26 posted on 11/29/2021 9:57:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootistst)
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To: GreyFriar

Yes,I should have noted that... this isn’t something that is due to practices at WMAL. On top of that, Bongino broadcasts from his home. Plante is broadcasting from his home while he is sick.


27 posted on 11/29/2021 9:58:49 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

The vaccines do not work. I originally believed the data did show some efficacy or minimization of symptoms in breakthrough cases, but that is now obviously not true with large data sets that are reliable (Israel, Portugal, UK, and others) showing that there is no difference in mortality for jabbed vs unjabbed. In fact, some of the numbers appear to show an increase in mortality for the jabbed but I would caution that we need to be careful in interpreting that as those with the highest mortality rates had the highest rates of vaccination.

We have been sold a lie. Rather than rationally admit this and try a different approach the powers that be have decided to double down on the vaccines now pushing a booster that will not work either. In fact, it is so obvious that now we have the same cheerleaders on television suggesting that getting the booster will protect you for 4-6 months? What then? Another booster of course. They openly admit the truth when they say that the vaccine makers are working night and day to target the new variant. Today it’s Omicron. Maybe the jab works for 4-6 months but then we will have Pi and then Rho and then Sigma (since we had to skip Xi for political reasons).

This is insane. I would urge all of you to step back and look at not only the data I mention above but look at the efficacy of IVM and other drugs/supplements against the virus.

I am not anti-vaxx. I took the vaccine based on my own risk profile. I will not take it again because it does not work or if it does it only works for months. I have far more faith based on actual science in the therapeutics and preventative supplements.

I would urge everyone to read RFK Jr’s new book as well as the book by Dr. Scott Atlas. This whole pandemic has been a mess folks. It’s real - I have lost friends to both the virus and know several who are sick now, but we allowed Fauci to do the same thing with Covid that he did with HIV. “Vaccine or nothing” and deny the therapeutics when people decades later still use the therapeutics and there is no vaccine for HIV. Many argue that Fauci caused the deaths of 50k with HIV that could have been saved with therapeutics. If true, the number is 10x higher in the US because he only wants to push vaccines.

We still do not have a vaccine for HIV but we do have therapeutics.

Despite decades of effort and tens of billions of dollars we still have no vaccine for HIV. We do have “vaccines” for influenza, but they are only 50-70% effective and you have to take one each flu season and hope they guessed the variants for the season correctly.

Sound familiar? It is.... this has become the new influenza but there is a key difference. We never mandated behavior on anyone for influenza nor did we shut down society over it or restrict travel.

Best wishes for Dan and hope he is being treated aggressively given his cancer.


28 posted on 11/29/2021 10:00:07 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Steve_Seattle

They know their audience . . .


29 posted on 11/29/2021 10:02:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreeReign
So do vaccinated people get natural immunity when they recover?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that once you go down the path of taking the experimental shots, you are pretty much committed to taking boosters for the rest of your life.

30 posted on 11/29/2021 10:02:38 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 2 days away from outliving Holly Dunn)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
“safe and effective”

"sad and ineffective"

31 posted on 11/29/2021 10:03:29 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: volunbeer

I agree with your caution. I read that one interpretation of the data you cite is that the elderly and sickly were given priority in the UK as here, so you would expect a greater death rate in that cohort. I wish we could have a dispassionate look at all this data, it seems it is always hijacked by the left for political propaganda purposes. We should avoid making the same error.


32 posted on 11/29/2021 10:05:09 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: SamAdams76; FreeReign

Yes, you will have natural immunity from having Covid regardless of vaccination status and no, vaccination does not hinder, hamper or turn off your immune system.


33 posted on 11/29/2021 10:20:09 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: FreeReign; shadowlands1960; deweyfrank; aMorePerfectUnion; CatHerd; mewzilla
So do vaccinated people get natural immunity when they recover?

Sadly, the data points to vaccines reducing natural immunity.

COVID Vaccines Destroy Natural Immunity To Make People Dependent On Booster Shots, UK Health Security Agency Reveals
https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13729/20211026/covid-vaccines-destroy-natural-immunity-to-make-people-dependent-on-booster-shots-uk-health-security-agency-reveals.htm

This is one from back in 2011: Vaccination Alters the Balance between Protective Immunity, Exhaustion, Escape, and Death in Chronic Infections
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3094965/

34 posted on 11/29/2021 10:22:02 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Steve_Seattle

The local news radio station has been pushing vaxxes for months 24/7—so that is not surprising.

What was surprising when they acknowledged this morning that their newscasts were sponsored by Pfizer.

How about a conflict of interest!


35 posted on 11/29/2021 10:22:15 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ducttape45
Wait, I thought Bongino didn’t get the “vax.” What gives here? Wasn’t he anti-mandate?

He's got a position that most reasonable, sane people can appreciate, namely, that you can get the vax or not at your best discretion, but no one should be coerced into getting one under any circumstances.

In my experience, that seems to be the prevalent position here on FR, even among the most pro- and anti-vax commenters.
36 posted on 11/29/2021 10:24:42 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: ducttape45

Nope.

He got Vax and said it was personal decision based on his health status and told everyone he is anti-mandate....


37 posted on 11/29/2021 10:29:28 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: shadowlands1960

I suppose this is a DC host besides Bongino (now national).


38 posted on 11/29/2021 10:45:42 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes, Chris Plante is local to DC on WMAL. I started listening to him when I got peeved at Glen Beck for some reason I don’t even recall.


39 posted on 11/29/2021 10:50:40 AM PST by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: SamAdams76

Why?

No reason to continue boosters if you are not satisfied.

And you didn’t answer the question. Yes, you’ll still get “natural immunity” despite vax.


40 posted on 11/29/2021 10:54:57 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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