Posted on 12/23/2021 6:53:23 AM PST by blam
You're gonna need a bigger root cellar.
Already in Oregon and probably other “Blue” states too... collecting rainwater is verboten, punishable by large fines and even jail! Living “off grid” is also criminalized in many U.S. communities. Our feudal lord wannabe masters demand “no other gods before them!”
The 16th Amendment (income tax) has “progressed” to the point the government has first claim (withholding) to the fruits of your labor. In the not so distant past, such stolen labor was called “slavery”... and a bloody war fought to end it. Now such stolen labor is called “fair share” and “economic justice!” Old Serpent smiles.
The guy in Brooklyn was not arrested for hoarding N95 masks. He was selling them at inflated prices up to a 700% markup. One might debate whether that’s right or wrong but portraying the incident as the author does is simply fearporn.
From that date in 1933 to 1 January 1975, it was illegal for any US RESIDENT to own non-jewelry gold. From the crisis of the beginning of the Great Depression to the crisis of the COVID Pandemic, Presidential Executive Orders can be quite intrusive and dictatorial. Amazing how much the SWAMP will take when we do not resist!
….you can sell your property for whatever someone is willing to pay....
That’s going to make Jay Leno and his car collection public enemy #1.
Just recently I've started accumulating cans of soup with these special prices for quantity. That can of soup is a complete, 300-or-less calorie meal for $1.29 (what I'm paying).
It's important to understand he source of that canned food, though. Unfortunately I can't trust any food items coming from China.
Regarding prepping/"hoarding" in general - not only is that not amoral/illegal, it is a PUBLIC SERVICE. The person who hoards in the immediate aftermath of a disaster is not being particularly moral, but the person who accumulates provisions in general is one less person out there emptying the shelves when disaster does strike.
In fact, after a while I find myself putting back some supplies for neighbors (I hope they love Vienna Wieners!).
Oregon is a big state, and most of the rain harvesters live in rural areas. Many sheriffs and county officials in rural counties will likely not enforce such rules.
Look at New York: when the governor brought back mask mandates, 30 county executives, mostly in the upstate area, said they would not enforce the governor’s decree.
The prepper handbooks and newsletters I’ve read emphasize keeping quiet - very quiet- about everything you’re doing.
You don’t want nosey neighbors knowing what you have should the time come - or worse, the government.
Good advice, good advice.
Like I wrote, you can argue you that all you want but the article misrepresented the facts.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you.....but being arrested for having them or arrested for selling them at what the government decrees to be an excessive price is a distinction without a difference.
So many folks in Hawaii live off grid.
Solar & wind electric, propane for cooking and hot water, septic tanks, and most important catchment systems for water.
They are not a burden on the lives of those on the county or grid systems.
They should be left alone.
I and others also suggest NOT buying in bulk, but a little extra every week. It doesn’t kill your budget and also allows for better product rotation, which too many folks forget.
just my $0.02
Define “hoarding”.
Don’t let polypragmayons define it.
Quantities exceeding any rational explanation may be “hoarding”.
Large amounts of shelf-stable products contributing to prolonged nutritional needs is not hoarding.
Large amounts of perishable products with no apparent way to consume, distribute, nor store before spoilage is hoarding.
Yes, all have a right to buy whatever they want.
Deliberately buying up staples with the practical outcome of causing societal collapse understandably elicits a DGAF response regarding rights.
Prepping should end where you have more than enough to the point of wasting resources.
Of course it is.
They are already demonizing preppers as “hoarders”.
*** It’s important to understand he source of that canned food, though. Unfortunately I can’t trust any food items coming from China. ***
Nor should you.
10 ‘Made in China’ Cancer-Causing Foods Full of Plastic and Pesticides You Must Avoid
https://www.theepochtimes.com/10-made-in-china-cancer-causing-foods-full-of-plastic-and-pesticides-you-must-avoid_3005504.html
We used to have used to have 3ight in this countrymto live totally,independent of society, and not pay a dime for anything if we so chose to do so.
A person could roam around, sleeping in the wilderness, make their own clothes out of either discarded stuff, eat off the land, and never have to buy anything like,insurance, liscences etc.
The unconstitutional ruling of the Supreme Court put an end to that when they ruled that a government could compell someone to buy something they didn’t want, or face a penalty for not doing so.
Now we are told we must get vaccinations if we want to work, ride transportation, go,into a store, socialize etc. For, ow we could I suppose go off grid, and avoid it all, but in Australia, a worried to do that, and was arrested and taken to a covid camp even though she lived far outside of,any contact with others where she chose to live off grid. That may be coming here as well. NY tried to pass something similar to what Australia does, thankfully it failed, but Chicago, and several other states are now requiring proof of vaccination justnto be able to but groceries or socialize or do business.
Lif3 is starting to seem like,like, old song that says Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
If memory serves me, in WW2 the government confiscated “excess” food that people in TX had stored.
As regards “precedent”, does our corrupt government and equally corrupt judicial system even pay lip service to “precedent” anymore?
We all hope local law enforcement won’t enforce unconstitutional (anti-constitutional) laws, but some will and some have in Oregon (link below). The last line of defense against these increasingly totalitarian decrees from wannabe despots are local officials. Will they resist? The BIG TYRANT has no power without their army on mini-tyrants to do the dirty work.
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