Posted on 02/24/2022 12:04:16 PM PST by gattaca
First, I did not anticipate Russia going beyond their allied region in Eastern Ukraine. I was wrong. It appears Vladimir Putin is going for the whole enchilada as reports indicate his military operations are positioned to capture all of Ukraine, specifically the western Ukraine areas under control of the U.S. State Department.
Second, with all the prior Ukraine issues serving as a reference, it is important to remember that every media outlet in the U.S. machinery of information is untrustworthy.
U.S. intelligence manipulated information, some call misinformation and disinformation, is rampant as the U.S. has specific motives for everything that takes place in Ukraine.
In many ways Ukraine is a vassal state of U.S. leftist politics.
Ukraine has been a satellite operation for the U.S. State Department for approximately 15 to 20 years. The U.S. has held control over Ukraine, and manipulated every political outcome inside Ukraine, for well over a decade. This reality is the source of Vladimir Putin’s angst toward the west for the same amount of time and it’s the same reason why the EU, specifically Germany, is tenuous in any collaborative response.
The EU writ large (including NATO) are less interested in Ukraine because they know Ukraine is the U.S. playground in Europe. This truism explains why we see a conflict when it comes to responses and sanctions from the U.S. compared to the European NATO allies.
The outcome is along the line of NATO countries telling us, Ukraine is our playground, the issues are our creation, therefore when it comes to responsive action – you do you and we will look out for ourselves, but we in the EU have to live with the reality of the outcome so our interests will likely diverge from yours depending on what Putin intends.
Vladimir Putin seeking to take the entire country of Ukraine back under his control – highlights, at least to me, that when Joe Biden took office the scale of U.S. manipulation and influence went back to maximum levels. This is in contrast to four years of President Trump not manipulating Ukraine or trying to use Ukraine as a vassal for U.S. foreign policy interests. Obviously, this puts the DC and Deep State (CIA and State Dept) attack on Trump, using Ukraine, into a specific context.
While there is no justification for President Putin to take all of Ukraine, an independent nation, under Russian control, the Occam’s Razor geopolitical explanation would indicate Putin just reached a point where enough was enough. Taking all of Ukraine away from U.S. control puts a stop to our using the Russian border state for our own interests.
Again, the scale and scope of Putin’s commitment here shows a particular radically strong motive to cut out what he sees as the U.S. cancer completely. This is the aspect I did not anticipate. I expected Putin to throw a strong brush back pitch against the U.S. and retake control over eastern Ukraine, where he is appreciated. I did not expect Putin to throw multiple fast balls directly at the head of team U.S.A.
Now we get to the part where information warfare begins. The same U.S. media who support the deepest part of the DC deep state, will be spinning the U.S. State Department position exclusively and with a massive amount of manipulation. We cannot trust the CNN, WaPo, NYT version of events because they are in alignment with the globalist intents of the Dept of State.
Inside the dynamic is another layer of ideology around climate change and energy. The same U.S. interests who will clutch their pearls over the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, will not step up to increase energy development within the U.S. that could offset Russian influence in Europe.
It is difficult to blame Germany for not supporting the Biden demands of sanctions against Russia (SWIFT, Nordstream II, etc.) because energy dependent Germany can see the hypocrisy in the U.S. position toward energy development.
Stuck in the middle of this are the Ukraine people. The manipulative U.S. State Dept has held control over Ukraine politics for so long most of the Ukraine people suffer Stockholm syndrome toward us. I doubt most of the western Ukrainian people can see how the U.S. involvement in their political affairs has put their country into this vulnerable position, in the same way most of the American people do not see the manipulation in the U.S. 2020 election.
In the big picture China and Iran support Russia and are allies with Russia. Collectively China, Iran and Russia will have increased direct involvement as their alliance will now confront the U.S- western alliance. We can expect the cyber battleground (hacking etc) will be China and Russia working together while the U.S. and western allies work together.
The bottom line is…. Eventually physical power is what determines the outcome of war.
If Putin wants all of Ukraine, he will get all of Ukraine.
That’s called a bargaining chip.
Primary driving force is he knows he can get away with.
Brandon can’t do squat to hurt Putin, just us.
“specifically the western Ukraine areas under control of the U.S. State Department.”
So an army of Derp State bureaucrats from Foggy Bottom are occupying Western Ukraine and brave, brave Sir Putin is going to liberate the Ukrainians from the transgender wokesters?
LOL.
This nonsense is almost worse than the war itself.
An excellent general summary of the whole situation
I too did not imagine an invasion. But it seems Putin is calling NATO, Biden’s and the Woke US Deep State’s bluff, in a big way.
Empty blather.
Stuck in the middle of this are the Ukraine people. The manipulative U.S. State Dept has held control over Ukraine politics for so long most of the Ukraine people suffer Stockholm syndrome toward us. I doubt most of the western Ukrainian people can see how the U.S. involvement in their political affairs has put their country into this vulnerable position, in the same way most of the American people do not see the manipulation in the U.S. 2020 election.
Putin just delivered the prize-winning #FJB for the world to see. Too bad the victims are the Ukraine people.
We deserve to lose all influence in Ukraine. Besides the Hunter’s interests and 10% for the big guy, what is the critical interest for the US that takes precedence over all the other problems we have.
Brandon hurts us more than he hurts Putin.
This is not a surprise. Putin announced that his goal was to “demilitarize and de-Nazify” the Ukraine. That means taking the entire country and taking away all the billions of $$$ worth of military equipment that they have been given to the current regime and also installing leadership more to their liking.
Way to go Brandon! The Afghan winning streak continues... What else will he give away to the bad guys? Will the North Korea make a minor incursion into South Korea and take Seol? Or will China take Taiwan; it is all on the table while an illegally installed senile old incompetent idiot is in charge.
Putin learned Hitler’s lesson in Czechoslovakia, when Adolf’s two-step approach (first the Sudetenland, then the rest) used up time and resources; in short, if you know you want it all anyway, just take it all at once and be done with it.
In any case, Moldova is next, and that will be a piece of cake. Then it gets dicey.
P. S. No one is stating something I think is obvious, that Europe doesn’t care about Hungary or Romania or Poland because they are counter-revolutionary, meaning they want to hold on to their Christian morals, and they don’t buy into climate change nonsense. If Putin decides to gobble them up too, the EU won’t care, as long as he leaves Germany, Italy, and Denmark alone.
Putin is applying a different decorative layer of wallpaper
over the George Floyd murals on US embassy property because he can. Hope Biden manages this evacuation better this time.
Thank you Sundance for admitting you were wrong and then moving forward.
You can tell the difference between people who simply misjudged the situation on the one hand and on the other hand those who are Russian propagandists because the propagandists simply retail Putin’s latest lie - this is merely a military exercise, we will not attack Ukraine, our troops are returning home, we are just merely moving peacekeepers into DPR/LPR to protect the population, etc etc - and never go back and admit it was a lie or try to understand how they came to defend a Putin lie.
Part of this IMO is that we tend to view events through a small lens of our own political battles, such as the political battle we have had here to defend our country against the Globalists/Neocons who are wreaking havoc against it.
But one has to step back and use a much larger lens. Yes the globalists tried to use the popular arising in Ukraine and the widespread desire to join the EU and gain economic progress to the advantage of the globalists and the grifters like the Biden and other families who went in.
But Victoria Nuland and the other creepy vultures did not create the grass roots desires in Ukraine or in Belarus or Russia for that matter for change and economic progress. They just tried to manipulate them for their own ends.
You get no argument from here.
Go BIG or Go HOME!.........................
If he is trying to reunite the old Soviet territories, eventually he will have to take Latvia, and Lithuania.
“...and brave, brave Sir Putin is going to liberate the Ukrainians from the transgender wokesters?”
He in no shape, form, or fashion implied that sentiment.
Biden: To retaliate against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, I will punish US citizens and energy consumers with even higher prices. I guess you people didn't learn your lesson after 2 years of lockdowns!
“ We cannot trust the CNN, WaPo, NYT version of events because they are in alignment with the globalist intents of the Dept of State.”
Fox News is also reporting the sky is falling Ukraine is wonderful and how we need to do this and that already even though it’s too late 🤪
Libtards deserve the mess they helped created and for impeachment of Trump for trying to investigate longtime US corruption in Ukraine.
They’re just running around chasing their tails IMO
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