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Mariupol Defenders Reject Russian Demand for Surrender Setting up the Largest Siege of a City Since WW II
Red State ^ | 03/20/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 03/20/2022 9:55:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/20/2022 9:55:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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From what I have read, the Zelenskyites are keeping “innocent bystanders” from leaving the area, preferring to keep them from leaving the area. It makes a lot better story if more civilians are killed, plus they make real nice shields.

THIS is where the “Gulf of Tonkin” incident will happen that will propel the US into WW 3. Then God in Heaven help us all.

Can you believe it will be just over a stupid useless piece of land that can’t matter to Joe or Jane sixpack here in the homeland? Just like WW 1, which led directly to WW2, Korea, Vietnam and on and on and on.


2 posted on 03/20/2022 10:05:22 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stalingrad: The sequel!


3 posted on 03/20/2022 10:07:11 PM PDT by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy Americans has ever had. 🍊)
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To: Glad2bnuts

RE: From what I have read, the Zelenskyites are keeping “innocent bystanders” from leaving the area,

WHO is reporting this? Is this source trustworthy?


4 posted on 03/20/2022 10:07:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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It was reported with videos of the Ukrainian troops shooting refugees since day one. Now the “defense” is cracked and tens of thousands are able to flee and they all tell the same story.


5 posted on 03/20/2022 10:10:58 PM PDT by NorseViking
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RE: It was reported with videos of the Ukrainian troops shooting refugees since day one

1. Reported by who?

2. Can you show us a link to the videos?


6 posted on 03/20/2022 10:16:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4gHtX0i4tIc
Azov Battalion is shooting people trying to flee the city, as reported by a motorist who managed to escape. It is from late February when the Russian and LDNR forces were far away and many doubted if it is true.
However, the video depicting the aftermath was uploaded a day later, with the same vehicle and dead people inside and around, later pulled by YT, just like the English version of the above video.

Now there are hundreds of interviews of the refugees escaped from the city, telling the same story who said that their military abused them, holding hostages and taking positions in their homes. YT censors their testimonies but you can find them on Telegram.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/34175


7 posted on 03/20/2022 10:27:07 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Any sources from news stations that broadcast in and translate to English?

I’m not a Azof fan, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

You just pointed to one YouTube video that is - for me at least - censored, and another on telegraph that is all in a foreign language.


8 posted on 03/20/2022 10:50:24 PM PDT by Yossarian
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No Western media reports any of it, or heavily distorts it. I’ve even seen instances of false translation to English, where the woman was saying they were targeted by the Ukrainian troops, but they translated Russian. It resulted in numerous comments pointing it out, then the video was pulled.


9 posted on 03/20/2022 10:59:21 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Western media breaking news of Trump Russian collusions. Lmao Reliable sources


10 posted on 03/21/2022 1:20:42 AM PDT by hollywood12345
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To: SeekAndFind

“Can you show us a link to the videos?”

Sure, as soon as you can get the ghost I mean coward of kieve to come forward. Never mind we all know he was a character in a video game.


11 posted on 03/21/2022 1:21:55 AM PDT by chuckb87
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It was reported with videos of the Ukrainian troops shooting refugees since day one.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis called the Russians liars and condemned them for shelling and killing 10 Greek civilians. He also said Greece would send Ukraine weapons.

“Orthodox bombs killed Orthodox expatriates,” said a spokesman for the Greek Foreign Ministry. “Remember this thing.”

“And what the Russian embassy said is fake news,” he said, adding: “We have evidence.”

Ten ethnic Greeks were killed in the Mariupol area of eastern Ukraine yesterday, specifically in Sartana and Buhas.

Although Moscow claims they were killed by the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Azov Battalion that operates in the area and killed an ethnic Greek as recently as two weeks ago for speaking Russian, Athens denied this allegation by saying it has evidence – that it is yet to present

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/02/27/greece-defence-equipment-ukraine/

12 posted on 03/21/2022 3:36:49 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: SeekAndFind

The Russian forces seek to shift blame onto the defenders for the atrocities and war crimes that they have committed, and are planning to conduct.

Remember Mariupol!


13 posted on 03/21/2022 3:38:55 AM PDT by BeauBo
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Who cares what he says? He probably listens to the same media you do.


14 posted on 03/21/2022 3:40:16 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

“ A terrible humanitarian catastrophe has developed,” Mizintsev said.”

I bet if you guys stopped bombing and shelling them and then turn around and go home things would get better.

See, there was no “humanitarian catastrophe” until you Russians started blowing things up. So maybe one has something to do with the other.

L


15 posted on 03/21/2022 3:43:54 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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“and they all tell the same story.”

If the Russians hadn’t started shooting missiles and artillery at the city none of this would have happened.

L


16 posted on 03/21/2022 3:45:18 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Probably so, but then the cities that were smarter are now having gas at the pump and utilities for Russian prices, the debts of their residents to Ukrainian banks and micro credits are written off, taxes reduced to zero, and the businesses allowed tariff-free access to the Russian market.
What not to like?


17 posted on 03/21/2022 3:57:21 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Glad2bnuts

No. I can’t believe this will start WW3.


18 posted on 03/21/2022 3:58:57 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To my mind none of the sources are trustworthy.

Anyone else wondering why the Pentagon isn’t giving daily public briefings on what’s going on in Ukraine, complete with battle damage assessments, analysis.

Do they not want to get caught lying to the public...?


19 posted on 03/21/2022 4:01:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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There is the small issue of Russia illegally and without any military provocation invading a sovereign country and bombing their cities.

So there’s that.

L


20 posted on 03/21/2022 4:19:26 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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