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Why is New York Persecuting a Man for Defending Himself?
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| 9 July 2022
| Brad Polumbo
Posted on 07/09/2022 10:37:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
You could get a racially selected jury in NYC to convict.
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posted on
07/09/2022 11:54:44 AM PDT
by
Glenmore
To: Rummyfan
It’s 100% about race. The perp was black. The victim who fought back wasn’t.
The Dems are obsessed with the idea that blacks are being targeted by police, white vigilantes, etc.
To: dragnet2
Not gonna happen in the burbs. We have mulch bins.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:04:19 PM PDT
by
bobbo666
(Baizuo)
To: dragnet2
"The right seems slow to get it...They want to outlaw self defense. Defend yourself and go to jail..."
We see it over and over - this bodega guy, Rittenhouse, and the McCloskeys come to mind. Then we are always seeing less-publicized instances in which a business owner, homeowner, or store employee as charged for defending himself or his business against a thief or intruder.
And I keep seeing stories about BLM rioters being awarded huge settlements because police allegedly used excessive force, which was often nothing more than traditional riot-control measures.
To: WMarshal
Oh really! Says the guy working for the FSB. Orc lovers are so patently obvious in their hatred of freedom and love of genocide.
I do not cheer lead any political stuff on either side, I just report. You don’t like it, then go back to DU or some other ultra leftist site which would welcome your sick wit and hatred.
45
posted on
07/09/2022 12:10:01 PM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: Rummyfan
Because Alvin Bragg is just a kindred spirit of the dead thug, in a better suit.
To: Rummyfan
Because New York is like eastern Europe in some ways.
47
posted on
07/09/2022 12:12:55 PM PDT
by
familyop
("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
To: dragnet2
The right seems slow to get it...They want to outlaw self defense. Defend yourself and go to jail...Not in my great State of Texas, unless you live in liberal Austin.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:15:40 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
To: PIF
“This eventually leads to chaos, which leads to tyranny, which is the end game.”
You nailed it.
49
posted on
07/09/2022 12:16:36 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
To: PIF
Neocons are soooo touchy! You would think after 70 years of losing wars out you and they would have some sense of shame. I guess the fat stacks of $$$ they rape from the Americans taxpayers makes them feel all better.
50
posted on
07/09/2022 12:17:30 PM PDT
by
WMarshal
(Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
To: Rummyfan
You are correct. That said, it appears to me that the defendant has not been given his right to a trial and at least a public defender.
That said, he is in New York City which was rightly characterized in the movie “Escape from New York”.
Happily, Western NY where I live is better in the suburbs. There are too many murders in downtown Rochester. I’d like to get out of Dodge, but my wife and daughter remind me that we live in a safe area and if we moved we would leave behind all our friends...
To: Rummyfan
The Safari Rules are surfacing again….
Jose Alba, 61, was working at Hamilton Heights Grocery on Broadway when a 35-year-old career criminal and ex-con, Austin Simon, stormed behind the counter and shoved him into a wall. Austin Simon then continued to aggressively push Alba around, when the clerk grabbed a knife to defend himself and stabbed his attacker, Simon.
The entire incident was captured on CCTV footage [SEE HERE, Rumble], and the series of events were triggered when Simon’s girlfriend did not have enough money for her purchase and Jose Alba would not let her just take it without paying. The boyfriend, Austin Simon, then enters the store, walks behind the counter and begins assaulting the 61-year-old Mr. Alba. After a few minutes of being shoved and pushed around, Alba then grabbed a knife and stabbed Simon. The attacker died of his injuries. The store clerk was arrested by police, charged with murder and sent to jail with a $500,000 bail.
New York – The hard-working Manhattan bodega worker who was languishing on Rikers Island after being charged with murder for fending off a violent ex-con inside his store could be home as soon as Thursday night after a judge agreed to lower his hefty bail.
Jose Alba, who was being held on $250,000 bail in the Friday night caught-on-video attack, is due to be sprung after Manhattan prosecutors asked a judge to lower the amount to $50,000 — with relatives and Alba’s boss putting up the $5,000 needed to spring him on a bail bond.
Alba’s attorney, Danielle Jackson of Neighborhood Defender Service of Harlem, assured the judge that her client was going nowhere.
“He has every intention to return to court and defend this case,” Jackson said.
Prosecutors with District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office had initially requested that Alba be held on $500,000 bail at his arraignment Saturday, citing a planned trip to the Dominican Republic next week as proof that he was a flight risk.
In court, Manhattan prosecutors charged Alba with second-degree murder, but refused to file charges against Simon’s girlfriend for stabbing the bodega worker.
More than 20 relatives and supporters packed the courtroom for the video-feed court hearing in support of the beleaguered bodega worker.
Simon’s family, meanwhile, stormed out of court in tears, with his sister saying, that he “was murdered in cold blood.” “If the shoe was on the other foot my brother wouldn’t have gotten bail or bond or nothing,” she said. (read more)
Unfortunately, there is a racial component to this as blacks and Latinos have historically been two groups with friction between them. Then overlay the black grievance industry, and the last decade of efforts to excuse any amount of criminal conduct by black males, and the narrative becomes very familiar.
It’s the “Safari Principle.”
Essentially, the rules of the safari say you should remain indoors, or in a locked vehicle, when there are predators (young black males) in the vicinity. If you exit your vehicle in the safari, or otherwise engage the predators, they are not to blame for your injury or death. This social acceptance of black violence is part of the reparations process advanced by progressives and leftists.
Under the rules of the safari, you are not allowed to defend yourself from any predatory attack, and all attacks are triggered by the behavior of the victim when the attack starts. Famously another Latino named George Zimmerman was arrested by an activist prosecutor in Florida for defending himself against an attack by a black male named Trayvon Martin.
Police Officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson Missouri also learned the rules of the safari when he was attacked by another black male named Michael Brown. Wilson shot and killed Brown after the predator attacked him in his vehicle; however, Wilson was run out of town by angry mob who wanted him arrested for defending himself and doing his job.
As the Safari Rules have continued to evolve under the culturally Marxist advancements by Black Lives Matter, the current rules emphasize that all black male predators are to be excused for their violent behavior immediately and no self-defense is permitted.
Mr. Jose Alba has now entered into the Safari Rules legal process.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:26:43 PM PDT
by
Bratch
To: Rummyfan
In re. to self-defense in New York,...
CONCEPTIONS OF SELF-DEFENSE IN THE CRIMINAL LAW OF THE RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES
https://doi.org/10.18510/hssr.2019.7697
Maria V. Talan
Kazan Federal University, Russia
Oleg N. Dunin
Kazan Federal University, Russia
“Abstract
Purpose: This article is devoted to the analysis of the concepts of self-defense in the criminal law of Russia and the USA. The Russian Federation has developed a negative law enforcement practice in the field of implementation of the norms on necessary defense. Persons protecting themselves and their loved ones from criminals and causing harm to criminals who commit an attack are often prosecuted for violating the principle of proportionality of defense and attack, which under current law qualifies as exceeding the limits of necessary defense.”
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:33:02 PM PDT
by
familyop
("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
To: Rummyfan
Part of the Democrats warning that if you use a weapon to defend yourself, you become the criminal.
To: Rummyfan
There is not a jury in the world that will convict him. If you had written, "There is not a reasonalbe jury in the world that will convict him", I'd probably agree with you.
Full disclosure: I haven't seen a video of the incident, only a still photo or two.
So, don't be so sure. Remember Chauvin was convicted of murder even though the coroner said the cause of death was from heart failure due to a massive overdose of fentanyl.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:46:29 PM PDT
by
libertylover
(Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
To: antidemoncrat
Someone should pay the prosecutor a visit. Seems to be the thing in vogue these days when you don’t agree with the system. Maybe he could hear: nice house you have there mister, pity something should happen to it with you inside.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:46:36 PM PDT
by
Mouton
(The enemy of the people is the media )
To: WMarshal
You hatred is self-revelatory.
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posted on
07/09/2022 12:46:54 PM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: antidemoncrat
I hope the guy sues the city for false imprisonment for millions
To: Rummyfan
New York is more like Russia than other U.S. states, although Russia is more against civilian ownership and use of firearms than New York.
Owning, Using, and Carrying Guns in Russia
https://www.usacarry.com/guns-russia/
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posted on
07/09/2022 1:04:07 PM PDT
by
familyop
("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
To: Jhadur
Because his assailant was of the democrat’s preferred ethnicity. This situation will not go well for the Stalinist NYC government. Everyone will see the tape, and it's absolutely shocking and unequivocal. I'd venture to say a majority of blacks in the general population would tell a pollster the guy should have all charges dropped with a check and a big, fat apology.
Most actual blacks (as opposed to politicians funded by white totalitarians like those in the Gates Foundation) can't stand psycho-jerks like the late perp--with whom they are all too familiar.
This is not a white guy defending himself--the Upper East Side voters would cheerfully throw away the key, in that case. It will ultimately prove to be a bridge way too far. Do white politicians want to be seen as trashing a Hispanic voter who was clearly defending his life?
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