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1 posted on 09/30/2022 9:42:28 AM PDT by karpov
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The reason the left wants to get rid of the ACT is because it is useful.

So, using the argument that act is useful is only going to encourage the left more.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 9:45:11 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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I was not a great student in HS, but I exceled on the ACT, and even CLEP-ed out of first level English and science.

If it was that easy for me, a dumb white guy, I can’t imagine any other “group” should have any problem with it.


3 posted on 09/30/2022 9:45:34 AM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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Standardized tests (ACTs, SATs, etc.) have been attacked because the ideology of those teaching within the education system from K12 to uni/college level has changed/evolved from actual teaching to indoctrination (i.e.: wokeism, etc., etc., etc.).

A ‘dumbed down’ student is easier to indoctrinate than an educated student who might know and argue otherwise. Hence, the attacks and the ultimate agenda to remove standardized tests.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 9:47:02 AM PDT by cranked
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They want to get rid because it exposes the failure of the education establishment to teach poor, inner city kids.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 9:50:25 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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Is there a formula for figuring out an ACT score compares to an SAT score? I took the SAT exam but don’t know what that would translate to on the ACT.


7 posted on 09/30/2022 10:12:20 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Jews and Asians do better, Blacks do worse. Part of it is cultural, part of it is heredity. The establishment can’t deal with the facts honestly.

One of their points about “white privilege” is whites have set up a system emphasizing traits that benefit whites such as hard work. For that to be true, whites have to be lean toward working harder. Wouldn’t the corollary have to be Blacks lean toward working less?


8 posted on 09/30/2022 10:17:17 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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Our son scored 32


9 posted on 09/30/2022 10:23:01 AM PDT by Mercat
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I never heard anyone complain about the ACT.

They complain about the SAT.

The ACT is much more straightforward (or so I’ve been told).

The SAT has always been trickier.

I know of students who did poorly on the SAT but very well on the ACT.


16 posted on 09/30/2022 12:04:23 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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The author’s point is that the ACT measures academic achievement, not innate intelligence. But that’s a circular argument, as higher intelligence students have higher academic achievement. You can’t just throw unprepared, low-intelligence students into higher level courses.

The solution to the SAT/ACT is to rid both as requirements for college admission but to allow them as an alternative metric. The UC system stupidly won’t even look at SAT/ACT scores, so now they have to evaluate feeder schools and zip codes in order to sort out the students, whereas if it allowed optional SAT/ACT review, they’d have a more accurate view of student ability.

But that’s precisely what UC does not want, as it wants to increase black enrollment (and will have to lower academic standards in order to prop up black graduation rates).


17 posted on 09/30/2022 1:48:43 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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