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To: rlmorel
the only country in that part of the world. I think we actually should give military aid to

Explain why.

15 posted on 08/19/2023 11:36:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: Jim Noble

Genesis 12:3 ESV
I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Psalm 122:6 ESV
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! “May they be secure who love you!

Zechariah 2:8 ESV
For thus said the Lord of hosts, after his glory sent me to the nations who plundered you, for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye:

Isaiah 60:12 ESV
For the nation and kingdom that will not serve you shall perish; those nations shall be utterly laid waste.

Zechariah 12:1-14 ESV
The oracle of the word of the Lord concerning Israel: Thus declares the Lord, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him: “Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples. The siege of Jerusalem will also be against Judah. On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who lift it will surely hurt themselves. And all the nations of the earth will gather against it. On that day, declares the Lord, I will strike every horse with panic, and its rider with madness. But for the sake of the house of Judah I will keep my eyes open, when I strike every horse of the peoples with blindness. Then the clans of Judah shall say to themselves, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem have strength through the Lord of hosts, their God.’ ...

Numbers 24:9 ESV
He crouched, he lay down like a lion and like a lioness; who will rouse him up? Blessed are those who bless you, and cursed are those who curse you.”


25 posted on 08/19/2023 11:59:17 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Jim Noble

You were correct in asking me to explain why.

If this had been 30 years ago, or possibly even 10 years ago, I might have said they’re the only country that even comes close in that region to sharing our values, and they’re the only ones who don’t want to see us all dead.

However, given where we are today, tens or hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt, depending on how debt is defined, I think we should be getting things in order in our own house.

I said in another post on another thread, that the three things that we as Americans should be most concerned about right now, are our electoral process, our fiscal situation, and our border situation.

If we don’t get those three things in order, our goose is cooked. Therefore, I don’t believe at this time we should be sending any amount of military aid to any country except in very specific instances.

Bottom line, I should’ve worded my post differently, because my brain was still 30 years in the past, as I wrote. What I would say today is:“we shouldn’t be sending military aid to anybody at this time, but if we were, Israel would be one that I would consider.“

That said, the way Israel has been treated by us on many occasions, I’m always surprised that they can view us as an ally . More often than not, if I were in their shoes, I would be telling the United States to go pound sand.


52 posted on 08/19/2023 2:03:02 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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