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Israeli Official: Hamas Raped ‘Women, Grandmothers, Children’ So Violently ‘They Broke Victims’ Pelvis’
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 10/23 | Ryan Saavedra

Posted on 10/23/2023 1:16:20 AM PDT by spirited irish

New details have begun to emerge about the barbaric evils that innocent Israeli citizens were forced to experience at the hands of savage Palestinian Islamic terrorists with Hamas during their unprecedented terror attack two weeks ago.

A woman named Shari, who did not want to give her last name because she wanted to protect her family, works in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Rabbinate corps and it is her job to clean the victim’s bodies as best as possible to prepare them for burial.

“We wash the bodies and prepare them for burial. We try to bring them dignity in death,” she told the Daily Mail. “I heard stories about Auschwitz as a child growing up in New Jersey. But what I have seen here with my own eyes is worse than the Holocaust.”

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KEYWORDS: aljazeeta; aljihadzeera; arabism; cruel; hamas; islamism; islamofascism; jihad; palestinians; pij; rapejihad; sick; trashida; vicious; warcrimes
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To: spirited irish

They need to release to the world all video evidence

Fcuk the kooks wing of the west


41 posted on 10/23/2023 10:58:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (Civilization cannot tolerate what the world is becoming )
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To: spirited irish

You can see all the proof of atrocities on telegram

Worst I’ve seen in my 66

And I’ve seen ruff stuff in Sierra Leone and Haiti and El Salvador decades ago

Rapes

Murder of a child and kicking the corpse as they danced and proceeded to gang rape the distraught mother

Like I compare to

Comanches with better guns

Pure animals

They have to be eradicated

Without becoming like them as much as possible which contrary to sound and fury glassing fantasy here entails limiting civilian deaths where possible

At least until that becomes untenable

Israel is not Soviet Russia

Or Comanches

Or New Gen

They won’t conduct their retribution that way

I can promise you but it will be severe


42 posted on 10/23/2023 11:04:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (Civilization cannot tolerate what the world is becoming )
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To: Grey182
Raping women captured in battle is not only promoted in Islam, but they have the example of Mohammed raping Rayhana bint Zayd, after beheading his husband and other captives of the Banu Qurayza. The Jewish tribes of Yathrib welcommed Muhammed and his followers, when they fled Mecca. They grew in number and turned on the Jewish, Christians, and Pagan tribes. 2 of the three Jewish tribes sided with those who fought the armies of Mohammed and lost at the Battle of the Trench. The Banu Qurayza sided with Muhammed because of a treaty. But once Mohammed controlled Yathrib and renamed it Medina, he had a dream saying that the Banu Qurayza betrayed him. And so, they waged a war of extermination against the Banu Qurayza. In the end, all of the surviving adult men of the Banu Qurayza who were captured were beheaded. The women and children were enslaved for rape.
43 posted on 10/23/2023 11:42:58 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Grey182
We know that the Israeli government knew Hamas was going to attack. Reports are they moved 60-80% of their standard deployment away from the Gaza border to the West Bank on the 50th anniversary on the ‘73 war.
The Egyptians deny giving Israel specific information about the time and location of the attack. In the weeks before the large invasion from Gaza, Israel had been attacked from the West Bank and Jews were being attacked in Jerusalem in our month of holidays. Gaza was quiet and had been for months. And Hezbullah was running exercises in the north. Israel should have called up some reserves, but there was no desire to do so during holidays.

The attacks area political disaster for Netanyahu and for the left in Israel, which dominated the military, intel, and the deep state. Most of the civilians killed, raped, and kidnapped came from Leftist and pro-peace Kibbutzes and those at a pro-peace rave.

No counter assault occurred for seven to twelve hours
That isn't actually true. There were local counter attacks, but the main army forces were out of place. Israel was also hit by cyber attacks.

One woman from a kibbutz said on Israeli radio that the captors treated them well and that, in her area, everyone else died in the crossfire, including her husband, except herself, another woman and the Hamas Commander who surrendered by stripping down and following her out of their building. Should we believe the MSM?
Not the communists, Islamists, and Nazis you rely on. Multiple prisoners were made to make false statements to hamper IDF counter-attacks.

Video from the hospital bombing suggests the Israelis hit the hospital, but reports say the Israelis did warn them ahead of time.
Stop using Hammas-collaborating MSM, communist and Nazi press. The Hospital wasn't hit. The building is intact. Photos, film, and satellite pictures prove this The Islamist rocket his the parking lot setting cars on fire.

What is true and what isn’t.
We give you facts and resources at FR. You chose to believe Hamas/MSM lies.

Have I not found the fatwa, only comments I discussed before. Everyone, seems to be suggesting that forced rape of captives is against Islam, are they saying the rapes didn’t happen because these are devout Muslims? I just have questions.
You know nothing of Islam.

The Massacre of the Banu Qurayzah


The prisoners, thus condemned, were kept in the house or compound of a Muslim woman d. Al-Harith of the banu al-Najjaar tribe. In the morning they were marched out to a trench which had been dug in the city's market, and executed by decapitation [7] . According to the sira of Ibn Ishaq, one woman was amongst them. The other women and the children were given as sexual and labor slaves to the Muslims, with only boys who had not yet reached puberty being allowed to live. According to the sira, the haul of weapons and plunder was substantial, but Muhammad still sent some of the women and children to be sold in the Najd for more horses and weapons [8]. Muhammad as was custom received his pick of the loot including his pick of the females, a beautiful Jewish named Rayhana whose husband was decapitated, and the rest went to all the rest of the Muslims, with a Muslim on horse receiving 3 times the spoils of a foot soldier [9].

44 posted on 10/23/2023 11:58:52 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: magooey

You are right on and accurate. Sweden is a prime national example of demographic invasion by rape.

Indidel women are made to submit.

And in the ecclesiastical law of the Demon Allah, such rape of infidel spoiks of war is treated as consensual sex.

The concern is whether they are under a duty to raise the chldren oroduced as Musllims and coitus interuptus as a silution.

Thaey are beyond sick, subhumans.They become demons.


45 posted on 10/24/2023 4:37:59 AM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: rmlew

You and the others have convinced me Hamas also condones rape of Jews. To be honest I never said or believed that Hamas didn’t condone rape of Christian and other non-muslim women, save for the Jews.

We could quibble about the Egypt warning and which official was actually in the know, so here is a US warning.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/10/13/cia-issued-warnings-about-potential-escalated-hamas-attacks-on-israel-days-before-strike/?sh=5102b9d75186

Just remember the West Bank is surrounded by Israel and weapons are hard to come by, unlike in Gaza which has port access. Extra Reservists should have been called up. The Govt and the Mossad knew something was coming. Prior to the attack when the Gazans would launch attacks with rockets they use infiltration teams, boats and tunnels etc.. This has all the marks of an intentional weakening of the border.

Hospital attack (yes the hospital was hit by a blast wave at very least). The missile that hit the hospital or next to the hospital was traveling at supersonic speeds. It is impossible for a detached rocket warhead to accelerate to Mach speed after it’s rocket engine had been destroyed by an intercepting Iron Dome rocket (which left rocket propellant burning in the sky).

Just because Hamas is bad doesn’t make the Israeli government automatically pure as the wind driven snow or immune to embellishing crimes.

I don’t have time for more, I wish I could find the panoramic video of the hospital near miss from an Israeli building, showing a line of air strikes that intersected with the hospital, but I saw it on another device which is at a different location. Sorry.

Over and out.


46 posted on 10/24/2023 6:49:29 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict XVI never resigned & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Grey182
Hamas attacks also occur in the "West Bank" and in Jerusalem.

We know an Israeli bomb did not hit the Al Ahli Hospital. Look at the video from the anti-Zionist Guardian Newspaper. It's a gas explosion in the parking lot. Here is the BBC, which routinely attacks Israel. The crater is tiny, like what one would expect from a rocket with a 10kg warhead.
And here is the satellite images via the Daily Beast. There is no rubble or real damage to the hospital

47 posted on 10/24/2023 1:30:06 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Grey182

ITS IN THEIR RELIGIOM.


48 posted on 10/24/2023 2:52:44 PM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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To: Grey182

MUSLIMS ARE DIRECTED BY MORE THAN THE QUORAN. THEY HAVE ANCILLARY TEXTS AND EDICTS LIKE THE HADDITHS AND FATWAS. THE QUORAN SET THE STAGE FOR THIS WITH ITS VICIOUS ATTACKS ON JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND OTHER “UNBELIEVERS”.
ISIS BOUGHT AND SOLD YAZIDIS AS SEX SLAVES. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THEIR INCEPTION.MOHAMMAD APPROVED AND DID IT HIMSELF. PICK UP A HISTORY BOOK AND ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF.


49 posted on 10/24/2023 2:58:26 PM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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To: ZULU

I said “ I never said or believed that Hamas didn’t condone rape of Christian and other non-muslim women, save for the Jews.” …Who the Hamas imam believed were beneath raping.

Now this may have been to avoid a Jewish Matahari comprising there organization. But it is clear many Hamas defaulted to Mohammed’s example.


50 posted on 10/24/2023 6:24:25 PM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict XVI never resigned & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: rmlew

When stories change, it looks bad. They may have used a round without a metal shell to limit collateral damage. Still the supersonic swoosh sound is on the video, it is distinctive to fast missiles. Btw, I also heard the Israelis dropped a dud missile to warn them an attack would happen soon. So, it sounds like they really tried to avoid casualties.


51 posted on 10/24/2023 6:35:54 PM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict XVI never resigned & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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magooey:

” know that the Israeli government knew Hamas was going to attack.”

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False.


52 posted on 10/25/2023 10:16:42 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: rmlew

Even the NYTimes admitted to be fooled by the lying pallywood.


53 posted on 10/25/2023 10:18:24 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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magooey:

” know that the Israeli government knew Hamas was going to attack.”

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False.

Grey182 stated this. I resent you trying to put his words into my mouth.

Instead I quoted from Raymond Ibrahim - Infidel Women: Islam's "Spoils of War". We are supposed to believe that Muslims suddenly stopped raping infidel women as matter of religious policy. Read here.

The subhuman treatment of non-Muslim women by jihadi organizations such as the Islamic State or Nigeria's Boko Haram - where "infidel women are bought, sold, gang-raped, mutilated, dismembered and burned alive - is relatively well known (thanks to ISIS itself, for disseminating images and videos). Less well known is that "infidel" women are treated in similar ways all across the Muslim world, as explained by a 2016 report:


54 posted on 10/25/2023 2:59:40 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Milagros
Even the NYTimes admitted to be fooled by the lying pallywood.
The NYTimes was only annoyed to get caught. They have an anti-Zionist opinion page and consistently lie to attack Israel
55 posted on 10/26/2023 3:30:17 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Grey182

I think the more you write, the deeoer you dig that hole.
You sound like an Islamist apologist to me or - more likely - a poorly informed non Muslim with a limited kniwkedge of Muslims, Koranic teachings and Islamic history.


56 posted on 10/26/2023 5:40:44 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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To: Grey182

Of course it is rape. BUt the way they appraoch ot via their “religion” is to say thyat the infidel women have consensual sex with their captors.

Theyt avoid the problem...rape does not exist with infidel women. INfodel women crave the Muskim man, you see.THe Muslim man is irresistable to an infidel woman. At least thats the schtick.

Its plain rape, and murder.But you would not get very far with such a rape accusation in a Muslim ecclesiastic court because the infidel woman wanted sex she begged for it.It is Allah who makes the infidel woman want Muslim men you see.

Muslim men have weird ideas about sex, they also think that if they are martyrs, they will have 72 Virgins every day, to play with. And naturally infodel women cannot resist such powerful captors.


57 posted on 10/26/2023 6:57:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: Candor7

Yep. They have narcissist’s view of the world.


58 posted on 10/27/2023 4:07:19 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict XVI never resigned & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: magooey

You have been putting words in my mouth too. Reference post #50.


59 posted on 10/27/2023 4:19:25 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict XVI never resigned & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Grey182

NOt only narcisstic, they are possessed by demon energy from their demon gid Allah. THey murder their infidel women captives whom they rape, just to make sure they do not have the responsibility of raising a child as Muslim.

These jihadists do a jihadi rfeligious practice whichi involves chanting and vizualization , This is done 5 times a day or more, and it opens themselves to evil, spo that they lose their humanity and will become deons. When they are no longer human the they have the capability of decaaptotating and burning babies. They loose all resemblance to humanity.

And so now they must be irradicated. Islam is a religion of peace, unless they begin the religioous practoces pf jihad and become mujahadeen.

So this is n ot only narcism, whihic we as Westerners can understand. It is a religious practioce whichi cultivates evil, and binds these deons to a path in whihic they think heaven is the result, sitting in a paradise they earn from martyrdom.

And whats more, the Umma is boumd to keep such teachings and thise who follow them secure.Its a from of demonology. And we have these bastards learning this crap in mosques all across America.Once they flip. ythere ios not9ong that can be saved....all that can be done is kill them every one, a remedy whichi boggles the moinds of Democrat and their lefty liberal schtick about restraint.

Eventually they will begin their reign of demonic terror here in the USA, and we will have to make martyrs out of all of them as fast as possible.


60 posted on 10/28/2023 3:14:22 AM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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