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To: Robert DeLong
I guess. Bt how much ammunition can be carried on an airplane? Enough to influence the "war"?

And who sent it? Someone in the executive branch of our government?

(No debate here, just askin'.)

I don't know why we're supporting Zelensky. Staying freed from Russia, yes. Sustaining a dictatorship? Maybe, but not a communist, socialist, or Godless philosophy? No.

13 posted on 01/12/2024 1:12:19 PM PST by imardmd1 (`)
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To: imardmd1

It doesn’t state who sent it, but my guess would be the Pentagon at the request of the Executive Branch. Who that might be is anyone’s guess, but I honestly doubt that Biden is making any decisions.


15 posted on 01/12/2024 3:05:05 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: imardmd1
Ukraine is just as much at fault for this conflict, but that aside. We can no longer be the policeman of the world. In fact, we never should have taken on that role to begin with, but things have changed considerably when we agreed to take on that role, and all it has provided was the destruction of this nation as we took on the world's problems while ignoring our own.

We are now financially insolvent, we no longer have the advantage with regards to weapons systems, and our infrastructure is crumbling, while our society has grown rotten & perverted to its core..

16 posted on 01/12/2024 3:13:24 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: imardmd1; Robert DeLong; MeganC; gleeaikin; UMCRevMom@aol.com
imardmd1: "I don't know why we're supporting Zelensky.
Staying freed from Russia, yes.
Sustaining a dictatorship?
Maybe, but not a communist, socialist, or Godless philosophy?
No."

I seriously don't understand where such nonsense comes from.

There is nothing ambiguous or uncertain about the basic situation -- Russia's Vlad the Invader is an evil dictator directly from Stalin's Old Soviet KGB, who invades his neighbors on the flimsiest of pretexts, bringing murder, pillage, rape & oppression to his victims.

Ukraine is a constitutionally structured republic with democratically elected officials who are simply defending their country from foreign invaders.

As for their relative morals, approximately --

So, the moral issue here is clear and beyond serious debate that I can see.
The question of how much, if any, the US should help Ukraine is a matter for debate, but certainly not in terms of allegedly "evil Ukraine" versus "good Russians", that would be pure nonsense.

Robert DeLong #16: "Ukraine is just as much at fault for this conflict, but that aside."

Naw... by any sane legal standards, Ukraine is 100% innocent, and anyone claiming otherwise has been smoking or drinking something illegal or hallucinatory.
There is simply no truthful moral defense of Vlad the Invader's actions in Ukraine or in other countries he's abused.

Robert DeLong #16: "We can no longer be the policeman of the world.
In fact, we never should have taken on that role to begin with, but things have changed considerably when we agreed to take on that role, and all it has provided was the destruction of this nation as we took on the world's problems while ignoring our own."

All of that is pure nonsense beginning, first, with this: "policeman of the world" is just a slogan, corresponding to no defined reality.
The reality is the US has a long list of bilateral and multilateral alliances through which we support our friends and deter our enemies worldwide.
There's nothing "policeman" about that -- we don't, for example, arrest bad actors in Mongolia or Nepal!

We do threaten the CCP's Xi-snake with dire consequences if he slithers across the Straight to invade Taiwan.
That's not "policeman", that's deterring Chi-Com aggression and defending our own national interests.

Second, since 1945, US foreign policies and military deterrence have kept the world at relative peace and allowed for the greatest explosion in average prosperity in the history of mankind.
Since 1950 US average GDP per capita has doubled -- adjusted for inflation only, but without valuing massive technological advances enjoyed by all, including life expectancy increases from 68 years in 1950 to nearly 80 today.

At the same time, the worlds average GDP per capita has multiplied five times, especially in its poorest countries.

These are the tangible results of "Pax Americana".

Finally, the manifest "destruction of this nation" has nothing to do with US foreign policy or "world policeman" and is 100% the result of our radical Democrats' war on Americans, including everything loathsome we see -- from woke to DEI to corruptions and stolen elections, they manifest our Democrats' Voter Replacement agenda and their Accelerationists priorities.

So, this has nothing to do with being the "world's policeman" and everything to do with radical insanities inside the reptile brains of our demented Democrats.
Allowing Vlad the Invader to work his will over Ukraine will not slow down our radical Democrats' agenda by even one heartbeat.
Only overwhelming legitimate defeats at ballot boxes can put a stop to our Democrats' craziness.

US Military Allies worldwide:

US Friends and allies worldwide:

22 posted on 01/14/2024 6:14:05 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: imardmd1

Not that much. C5 cargo is 280,000 lbs.

100 pound shells => 2800 shells. One day worth, for Ukraine.


60 posted on 01/17/2024 4:56:29 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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