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It's imperative that Trump gets a second term so he can pardon these fellas.
1 posted on 03/10/2024 4:14:14 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

He not only has to pardon them, he has to find out who did the ordering.


2 posted on 03/10/2024 4:18:47 PM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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The American Gulag Archipelago!


3 posted on 03/10/2024 4:19:14 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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4 posted on 03/10/2024 4:21:10 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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Praying for their safety. I hope they survive until Trump can pardon them.


6 posted on 03/10/2024 4:25:49 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Only the beginning...


8 posted on 03/10/2024 4:33:25 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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This is an ongoing disgrace.


10 posted on 03/10/2024 4:35:14 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.


11 posted on 03/10/2024 4:39:08 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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I thoroughly hate these people.


13 posted on 03/10/2024 4:41:55 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (Fascism: It can happen here. It DID happen here. It's STILL HAPPENING here!)
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14 posted on 03/10/2024 4:43:09 PM PDT by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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And yet so many here are willing to pay the media that is pushing the J6 narrative, for the privilege of sitting on their tails and being entertained by them.


15 posted on 03/10/2024 4:43:21 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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If there’s no room in DC where they’ve been convicted, then they should be released just like they do for the real criminals.


16 posted on 03/10/2024 4:43:31 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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There is no question that liberals want the J5Rs killed for their crime of protesting a stolen election.


17 posted on 03/10/2024 4:45:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I may not know as much american history and law as I like, but I know more than most liberals.)
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This is a warning to any of us deplorables who try to get uppity.


18 posted on 03/10/2024 4:45:45 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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The Rats are commie bastards.


19 posted on 03/10/2024 4:46:26 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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While this seems a true possibility at this moment, I think that Trump’s existential momentum is in play......so much so, that Team Evil is on the run, and that everything that they are doing is seeming to backfire......And, the backfire is coming from all quadrants and from seemingly out of nowhere....Matt Taibbi spells this out in his recent Substack article “America Enters the Samizdat Era”....check it out on Substack...........here is what I think.....wherever “they” put our J6 guys, I think that inmates in whichever institution, will actually circle around them to protect them....sort of like the NYFD guys that shouted down AG Leticia James the other day....Team Evil did not expect that ......and any efforts that Team Evil expends to try to manipulate/leverage oppressed people, including inmates, will also backfire in a big way....Angels are amongst us and we cannot rule that out by caving to despair or loss of hope.


20 posted on 03/10/2024 4:47:22 PM PDT by Be Careful
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May the Lord watch Over Them...
🙏


21 posted on 03/10/2024 4:47:53 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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Yes.


23 posted on 03/10/2024 5:08:24 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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bttt


24 posted on 03/10/2024 5:13:24 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Been following the J-6ers on “Cowboy Logic” for awhile now.

In the 80’s went to Europe to visit family members who were living under Communisms or had lived through the Nazi regime.

History is repeating itself.

Also went to the Brandenburg Gate a few months after it fell. Spent the day crying...tears of joy!


25 posted on 03/10/2024 5:14:48 PM PDT by lizma2
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WIKI

The Bastille...was a fortress in Paris, known formally as the Bastille Saint-Antoine. It played an important role in the internal conflicts of France and for most of its history was used as a state prison by the kings of France. It was stormed by a crowd on 14 July 1789, in the French Revolution, becoming an important symbol for the French Republican movement. It was later demolished and replaced by the Place de la Bastille.

The castle was built to defend the eastern approach to the city from potential English attacks during the Hundred Years’ War. Construction was underway by 1357, but the main construction occurred from 1370 onwards, creating a strong fortress with eight towers that protected the strategic gateway of the Porte Saint-Antoine heading out to the east.

The fortress was declared a state prison in 1417; this role was expanded further, first under the English occupiers of the 1420s and 1430s, and then under Louis XI in the 1460s.

The Bastille played a key role in the rebellion of the Fronde and the Battle of the Faubourg St Antoine, which was fought beneath its walls in 1652.

Louis XIV used the Bastille as a prison for upper-class members of French society who had opposed or angered him including, after the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, French Protestants. From 1659 onwards, the Bastille functioned primarily as a state penitentiary; by 1789, 5,279 prisoners had passed through its gates. Under Louis XV and XVI, the Bastille was used to detain prisoners from more varied backgrounds, and to support the operations of the Parisian police, especially in enforcing government censorship of the printed media. Although inmates were kept in relatively good conditions, criticism of the Bastille grew during the 18th century, fueled by autobiographies written by former prisoners. Reforms were implemented and prisoner numbers were considerably reduced.

In 1789, the royal government’s financial crisis and the formation of the National Assembly gave rise to a swelling of republican sentiments among city-dwellers. On 14 July, the Bastille was stormed by a revolutionary crowd, primarily residents of the Faubourg Saint-Antoine who sought to commandeer the valuable gunpowder held within the fortress. Seven remaining prisoners were found and released and the Bastille’s governor, Bernard-René de Launay, was killed by the crowd. The Bastille was demolished by order of the Committee of the Hôtel de Ville. Souvenirs of the fortress were transported around France and displayed as icons of the overthrow of despotism. Over the next century, the site and historical legacy of the Bastille featured prominently in French revolutions, political protests and popular fiction, and it remained an important symbol for the French Republican movement.

Reign of Louis XIV and the Regency (1661–1723)

The Bastille was used to investigate and break up Protestant networks by imprisoning and questioning the more recalcitrant members of the community, in particular upper-class Calvinists; some 254 Protestants were imprisoned in the Bastille during Louis’s reign.

By Louis’s reign, Bastille prisoners were detained using a “lettre de cachet”, “a letter under royal seal”, issued by the king and countersigned by a minister, ordering a named person to be held. Louis, closely involved in this aspect of government, personally decided who should be imprisoned at the Bastille. The arrest itself involved an element of ceremony: the individual would be tapped on the shoulder with a white baton and formally detained in the name of the king. Detention in the Bastille was typically ordered for an indefinite period and there was considerable secrecy over who had been detained and why: the legend of the “Man in the Iron Mask”, a mysterious prisoner who finally died in 1703, symbolises this period of the Bastille. Although in practice many were held at the Bastille as a form of punishment, legally a prisoner in the Bastille was only being detained for preventative or investigative reasons: the prison was not officially supposed to be a punitive measure in its own right. The average length of imprisonment in the Bastille under Louis XIV was approximately three years.

Under Louis, only between 20 and 50 prisoners were usually held at the Bastille at any one time, although as many as 111 were held for a short period in 1703. These prisoners were mainly from the upper classes, and those who could afford to pay for additional luxuries lived in good conditions, wearing their own clothes, living in rooms decorated with tapestries and carpets or taking exercise around the castle garden and along the walls.

The role of the Bastille as a prison changed considerably during the reigns of Louis XV and XVI. One trend was a decline in the number of prisoners sent to the Bastille, with 1,194 imprisoned there during the reign of Louis XV and only 306 under Louis XVI up until the Revolution, annual averages of around 23 and 20 respectively. A second trend was a slow shift away from the Bastille’s 17th-century role of detaining primarily upper-class prisoners, towards a situation in which the Bastille was essentially a location for imprisoning socially undesirable individuals of all backgrounds – including aristocrats breaking social conventions, criminals, pornographers, thugs – and was used to support police operations, particularly those involving censorship, across Paris. Despite these changes, the Bastille remained a state prison, subject to special authorities, answering to the monarch of the day and surrounded by a considerable and threatening reputation.

particularly in the middle of the 18th century, the Bastille was used by the police to suppress the trade in illegal and seditious books in France. In the 1750s, 40% of those sent to the Bastille were arrested for their role in manufacturing or dealing in banned material; in the 1760s, the equivalent figure was 35%. Seditious writers were also often held in the Bastille, although many of the more famous writers held in the Bastille during the period were formally imprisoned for more anti-social, rather than strictly political, offences. In particular, many of those writers detained under Louis XVI were imprisoned for their role in producing illegal pornography, rather than political critiques of the regime. The writer Laurent Angliviel de la Beaumelle, the philosopher André Morellet and the historian Jean-François Marmontel, for example, were formally detained not for their more obviously political writings, but for libellous remarks or for personal insults against leading members of Parisian society.

The governor received money from the Crown to support the prisoners, with the amount varying on rank: the governor received 19 livres a day for each political prisoner – with conseiller-grade nobles receiving 15 livres – and, at the other end of the scale, three livres a day for each commoner. Even for the commoners, this sum was around twice the daily wage of a labourer and provided for an adequate diet, while the upper classes ate very well: even critics of the Bastille recounted many excellent meals, often taken with the governor himself. Prisoners who were being punished for misbehaviour, however, could have their diet restricted as a punishment. The medical treatment provided by the Bastille for prisoners was excellent by the standards of the 18th century; the prison also contained a number of inmates suffering from mental illnesses and took, by the standards of the day, a very progressive attitude to their care.

Although potentially dangerous objects and money were confiscated and stored when a prisoner first entered the Bastille, most wealthy prisoners continued to bring in additional luxuries, including pet dogs or cats to control the local vermin. The Marquis de Sade, for example, arrived with an elaborate wardrobe, paintings, tapestries, a selection of perfume, and a collection of 133 books. Card games and billiards were played among the prisoners, and alcohol and tobacco were permitted. Servants could sometimes accompany their masters into the Bastille, as in the cases of the 1746 detention of the family of Lord Morton and their entire household as British spies: the family’s domestic life continued on inside the prison relatively normally.

The length of time that a typical prisoner was kept at the Bastille continued to decline, and by Louis XVI’s reign the average length of detention was only two months. Prisoners would still be expected to sign a document on their release, promising not to talk about the Bastille or their time within it, but by the 1780s this agreement was frequently broken. Prisoners leaving the Bastille could be granted pensions on their release by the Crown, either as a form of compensation or as a way of ensuring future good behaviour – Voltaire was granted 1,200 livres a year, for example, while Latude received an annual pension of 400 livres.

fuelled by the secrecy that still surrounded the Bastille, official as well as public concern about the prison, and the system that supported it, also began to mount, prompting reforms. As early as 1775, Louis XVI’s minister Malesherbes had authorised all prisoners to be given newspapers to read, and to be allowed to correspond with their family and friends. In the 1780s, Breteuil, the Secretary of State of the Maison du Roi, began a substantial reform of the system of lettres de cachet that sent prisoners to the Bastille: such letters were now required to list the length of time a prisoner would be detained for, and the offence for which they were being held.

Meanwhile, in 1784, the architect Alexandre Brogniard proposed that the Bastille be demolished and converted into a circular public space with colonnades. Director-General of Finance Jacques Necker, having examined the cost of running the Bastille, amounting to well over 127,000 livres in 1774, proposed closing the institution on the grounds of economy alone. Similarly, Pierre-François de Rivière du Puget, the Bastille’s lieutenant de roi, submitted reports in 1788 suggesting that the authorities close the prison, demolish the fortress and sell the real estate off. In June 1789, the Académie royale d’architecture proposed a similar scheme to Brogniard’s, in which the Bastille would be transformed into an open public area, with a tall column at the centre surrounded by fountains, dedicated to Louis XVI as the “restorer of public freedom”.

The number of prisoners held in the Bastille at any one time declined sharply towards the end of Louis’s reign. It contained ten prisoners in September 1782 and, despite a small increase at the beginning of 1788, by July 1789 only seven prisoners remained in custody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille


26 posted on 03/10/2024 5:18:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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