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This whole CIA leak smells like DNC
10/01/03 | mmd10

Posted on 10/01/2003 7:54:36 PM PDT by mmd10

--mmd10-- Lets start from the beginning, Wilson went to Niger and came back saying Saddam never was seeking yellow-cake from that country. Now supposedly the WH retaliated releasing info on Wilson's wife who works for the CIA. I ask the question why would the CIA send an ambassador to Niger who has no investigative skills in the first place. Hmmmmm????

***Original column by Bob Novak 7/14/03 *** WASHINGTON -- The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge. Remarkably, this produced a political firestorm that has not yet subsided.

source - http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/printrn20030714.shtml

A senior intelligence official confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked "alongside" the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger.

source - http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm

--mmd10-- Why the hell wouldn't the director of the CIA know about this mission? Hmmmmm????

--mmd10-- Didn't Bush quote in his speech that British intelligence made these claims? An Italian document turns out to be forged, does that mean thats all the Brits had to support their claim? Does the fact that our own NSE can't confirm nor deny the Brits claims make those claims out to be false? Maybe Bush shouldn't have had them in his speech, but it does not make him a liar. I see a pattern here of democrats trying to drudge(no pun intended) up anything on this administration to drag them into the mud.

--mmd10-- Now back to todays headlines, supposedly six other reporters said that a top administration official called the six reporters and said that two top officials called the reporters to tell them that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA and revealed her identity. So in parsing Brit Humes words 10/01/03 "an anonomous top administration official called six anonomous reporters to tell them that two anonomous White House officials had revealed the identity of a CIA worker married to Ambassador Wilson". -This is the part to me that doesn't add up. I personally think that so called top official might have been a top democrat or someone in the media who are bias looking to bring down the Bush administration. Could it be possible that there are liberal editors out there who would have seen Novak's column before it is published. It is out of line to think that such an editor could have called this in to a DNC official. They seem to be good at cooking up this kind of BS. Say anything do anything is their motto.

***Now here is some of the media hype about the story. The drumbeat begins.*** 7/16/03 Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others? It sure looks that way, if conservative journalist Bob Novak can be trusted.

source - http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=823

The White House has denied being Novak’s source, whom he has refused to identify. But Wilson has said other reporters have told him White House officials leaked the identity.

source - http://www.msnbc.com/news/937524.asp?cp1=1

--mmd10-- Hmmmmmmm, all this unknown source BS, liberals wouldn't lie to make the President or his adminstration look bad would they? Like I said, I think a liberal editor sent Novak's story over to the DNC maybe before it was published. Now couldn't anyone anonomously call six reporters and say they are a top WH administrator and they are trying to get even with Joe WIlson. Give me a break, it looks to me the media is trying to hype up a story. It just don't make sense, but it does sound like something kooky libs who think they are so much smarter than everybody would come up with.

***Now lets look at some quotes and other interseting info about Joe Wilson.***

"Neo-conservatives and religious conservatives have hijacked this administration, and I consider myself on a personal mission to destroy both." - Joseph Wilson

source - http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/hdale.htm

At the time, he said he feared that the White House would retaliate. It allegedly did when administration officials called reporters to identify Wilson's wife as a clandestine CIA operative.

As the world now knows, Wilson is married to Valerie Wilson, nee Plame. She is his third wife. She is 40, slim, blonde and the mother of their 3-year-old twins. In the photos in his office, she has the looks of a film star.

"She is really quite amazing," Wilson said. "We were just discussing today who would play her in the movie," he cracked.

Wilson himself seems to have a theatrical streak. He is the son of journalists and calls himself a "former hippie, surf bum and ski bum." He is far more obliging of the spotlight than most diplomats, active or retired, and more flamboyant, wearing his graying mane on the shaggy side, slinging his feet onto his desk while taking calls -- more than 50 before noon -- from the media.

source - http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25492-2003Sep30?language=printer

--mmd10-- Sounds like Mr. Wilson might get that movie deal. His wife's name was known before Novak's article, why would she use her maiden name in undercover ops. "He is married to the former Valerie Plame and has two sons and two daughters. " Source - http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html

***Here's what Novak says about the whole issue.*** 10/01/03 by Bob Novak "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this. In July I was interviewing a senior administration official on Ambassador Wilson's report when he told me the trip was inspired by his wife, a CIA employee working on weapons of mass destruction. Another senior official told me the same thing. As a professional journalist with 46 years experience in Washington I do not reveal confidential sources. When I called the CIA in July to confirm Mrs. Wilson's involvement in the mission for her husband -- he is a former Clinton administration official -- they asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else. According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of undercover operatives'..." -Bob Novak

source - http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031001.shtml

--mmd10-- This is the question I want answered!

???? Novak’s White House sources aren’t the only potentially prosecutable leakers. The identity of an undercover operative such as Plame would not automatically be something in circulation at the White House. Somebody at the CIA would have had to tell the White House that Plame was Wilson’s wife and that she was undercover. Any aggressive Justice dragnet is as likely to collect CIA employees as it is White House officials.

Besides, most Justice Department investigations of leakers go nowhere, even when Justice knows their identities. At his May 6, 1997, confirmation hearing, Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet complained that the CIA files “crimes reports with the attorney general every week about leaks, and we’re never successful in litigating one. And I think, you know, if we could just find one, I don’t want to prosecute anybody; I want to fire somebody. That will send the right signal to people.”

source - http://www.msnbc.com/news/973536.asp?0dm=C11RO&cp1=1

--mmd10-- I seen in an interview with fromer CIA director Jim Woolsey were he said about 50 complaints a year are filed with the attorney generals office. Woolsey says about one a week. Does anyone else see how the dems are hyping this issue and the mainstream media seem to be neglecting to tell the public these facts.

***President Bush said Tuesday he welcomes a Justice Department investigation***

"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is," Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. "If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of". "The criminal division of the Department of Justice, with the assistance of the FBI as the lead investigative agency, opened a full investigation," Ashcroft said. He said the prosecutors and agents conducting the probe are "career professionals with extensive experience in handling matters involving national security."

source - http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/30/wilson.cia/index.html

--mmd10-- Seems to me President Bush is pretty pissed about this whole situation, he certainly doesn't seem to be hampering any efforts in the investigation like ex-president clinton did.

****Hmmmmmmm**** "Ambassador Wilson is CEO of JCWilson International Ventures, Corp., a firm specializing in Strategic Management and International Business Development." Ambassador Wilson was a member of the U.S. Diplomatic Service from 1976 until 1998. His early assignments included Niamey, Niger, 1976-1978; Lome, Togo, 1978-79; the State Department Bureau of African Affairs, 1979-1981; and Pretoria, South Africa, 1981-1982.

In 1982, he was appointed Deputy Chief of Mission in Bujumbura, Burundi. In 1985-1986, he served in the offices of Senator Albert Gore and the House Majority Whip, Representative Thomas Foley, as an American Political Science Association Congressional Fellow. He was Deputy Chief of Mission in Brazzaville, Congo, 1986-88, prior to his assignment to Baghdad.

source - http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html

---mmd10--- Another question I would like answered, is did Wilson's firm loose any money because of the removal of Saddam? He seems to have ties to Iraq and to Niger from his diplomatic days, he also seems to have a vendetta for the George W Bush administration. Hmmmm????

To sum up I believe this whole thing has a stench to it. Ecspecially finding out this Joe Wilson charactor is extremely partisan, the fact he was sent to Niger when he has no investigative experience and does not even work for the CIA but his wife does. The fact that someone from the CIA would have had to leak the info about his wife to the WH in the first place. The fact he is talking about who will play his wife in a movie, the mysterious top administration official who called six anonomous reporters. The fact the reporter who started this whole thing says nobody called him. I just don't know, seems like an amateurish scheme to cook up something on the administration based on Bob Novak's original column. Please keep in mind the fact that around 50 leaks a year are reported to the Justice Dept. by the CIA and democrats are acting as if this where the first ever. The whole thing just smells funny to me.

***This proves it was Rove! Yeah Right something a feeble minded liberal would believe.***

In 1992, Rove was fired as a consultant for the Bush-Quayle Texas campaign, after officials suspected that he was the source for a column by Novak and Roland Evans that portrayed the Texas presidential operation as in disarray. Rove was accused of making up the story because of a feud with the campaign's chairman, Rob Mosbacher Jr., whom the column reported, erroneously, was to be dumped. At the time Rove denied he was the source, and he said the column was false.

source - http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/page1/2128132

--mmd10-- You know what smells about this story. I believe maybe Rove maybe said the campaign was in disarray, but why would he leak that story when it would surely get himself fired? Now someone who might want to leak that story would be Rob Mosbacher jr. Seems like Mosbacher kept his job and Rove was fired. Hmmmmm don't make sense to me. Now leftist are saying because Novak wrote that story it must have been Rove who leaked again to Novak. What a joke, Rove has obviously proved himself to be a great asset to W Bush's administration. Turns out too that if he said those things in 1992 he was correct as history shows us that Bush didn't win in 1992. Maybe they fired the wrong guy back then. I don't believe for one minute Karl Rove is stupid enough to get himself fired in 1992, or stupid enough to sanction this whole Plame thing. No way, this man is much too smart for that.

Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.) (governing disclosures that could expose confidential Government agents) http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: cia; leaks; novak; plame; rove; wilson
Now back to todays headlines, supposedly six other reporters said that a top administration official called the six reporters and said that two top officials called the reporters to tell them that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA and revealed her identity. Parsing Brit Humes words on 10/01/03 "an anonomous top administration official called six anonomous reporters to tell them that two anonomous White House officials had revealed the identity of a CIA worker married to Ambassador Wilson".
1 posted on 10/01/2003 7:54:37 PM PDT by mmd10
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