It's 5150 Time!!!! Sammy Hagar Re-Joins Van Halen

Melodicrock.com ^ | 11-20-03 | my favorite headache

[mysterio]

Dave or the grave.

[Fledermaus]

I'd have settled for a reunion with Valerie! hubba hubba

[flashbunny]

That is soooooo sad....

[LisaMalia]

I'm just listening to "Dark Side of the Moon" ...what do I know?

[wafflehouse]

LOL
and America struggles with its raging indifference

[L.N. Smithee]

I gotta tell ya, Van Halen III was one of the lamest recordings ever put together by talented people who weren't trying deliberately putting out a crappy product to wrap up a contract with a record company (see Here, My Dear by Marvin Gaye, and Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed).

Hopefully, the turmoil in the lives of the brothers will inspire the great music that often results from bad times (Back In Black, Layla, "Ohio" and "Let's Roll," Tragic Kingdom, "Cleaning Out My Closet," etc.)

[L.N. Smithee]

I agree also! I always despised Van Hagar, nothing matched the musicality of Van Halen when Roth was singing.

Roth never sang. He shrieked. He howled. He wailed. But he never once sang.

[clee1]

Journey is still around?!

Yep. Had several concerts last year.

[meanie monster]

Roth can SING circles around Hagar!

[Khurkris]

all I can say is...

WANGO TANGO !!!!

...thank you.

[L.N. Smithee]

I dunno if he recorded it with Van Halen, but Roth's "Just a Gigolo" is one of the funniest songs I've ever heard.

Roth recorded "Just a Gigolo" on the Crazy From The Heat four-song EP with Edgar Winter on sax, and some studio musicians. No one from Van Halen was involved, but it was produced by VH's favorite producer, Ted ("Come on Dave, gimme a break") Templeman.

It was a decent song, but the fact of the matter is that Roth didn't have an original lick on that record -- it was a 100% copy of the original Louis Prima version.

[meanie monster]

But it was Roth's voice singing, correct? Nuff said....

[kenth]

Hagar's legal team is already in discussion with Van Halen's legal team.

Just takes some of the magic away, doesn't it? Think they can manage another 5150 or OU812?

[L.N. Smithee]

Roth can SING circles around Hagar!

Oh, brother. I am having high school flashbacks.

Can you please tell me one Roth tune in which he comes close to Hagar's performance on "Remember The Heroes" (VOA album)?

Look, I am not putting Roth down because I don't think he can sing. Ozzy Osbourne can't sing either. Neither could Bon Scott, and Rod Stewart, who's been around for a period spanning five decades, only learned to sing well in the last fifteen years or so. Lemmy of Motorhead always sounds like he's trying to gargle and sing at the same time. Gary Cherone is a better singer than all of them, but, as I said earlier, the VH III CD was dreadful.

There was a manic energy to Van Halen was Roth was the front man that was lost when Sammy took over. But before you blame Sammy, remember that when Dave got his own all-star band, (Steve Vai from Zappa, Billy Sheehan from Talas, Gregg Bissonette from Count Basie's band) they didn't have any decent songs.

C'mon, be honest. What would you rather listen to if you were on a desert island and were only allowed one CD? For Unknown Carnal Knowledge, or Eat 'Em & Smile?

[L.N. Smithee]

all I can say is... WANGO TANGO !!!! ...thank you.

I believe he is telling the truth when he says he has never done dope, but after listening to "Wango Tango," you wanna give him a urine test. "Pretend your face is a Maserati...get a little talcum, I'm gonna borrow it from Malcolm..."

[sully777]

Why bring back Van Hagar?

Saw Van Hagar in summer of 1986 at the Meadowlands Arena. Bad feedback echoing off the ceiling. I think too Eddie screwed up with one of his guitar intros. He sat down at the end of the stage and played acoustic. Weird progression because it sounded like Intro to Little Guitars, Eruption, Intro to Fools, and Shave and A Haircut Two Bits mixed together with a little road fatigue--kidding! It sounded a tad worse. He faired much better launching into his Casio solos with wild abandon (sarcasm). Wished I saw Van Halen in their glory!

I recall Hagar walking along a network of catwalks up in the nosebleed section with him slapping his guitar and screeching a few Hagar ditties like, umm something about one way to rock, and, umm I can't sing -sorry-drive 55, and umm Your love keeps something me crazy? But when Hagar dared to sing a Roth tune I shook my head and thought, "Stop! Please someone call up Roth and get him over here QUICK! And take that guitar away, Hagar's gonna hurt himself up there."

So I later saw David Lee Roth at MSG to compare bands. Roth was an excellent showman and was in fine form vocally. He worked the crowd from the nosebleeds to the front of the stage. Felt like one big party. I remember this enormous airbag microphone which was improvised as only Roth could improvise. At one point he rode the thing like a horse. Speaking of horse, Steve Vai was awesome! IMHO HE BLEW AWAY OLD and NEW EDDIE. Too bad Vai left for his solo projects and Roth was overcome with excess.

I have no use for Van Hagar or Van Extreme. It's all about ego and pride between the original Van Halen boys. Something not said is really at the root of the entire problem. And pretty soon they'll be another one of those bands that have a reunion in their 60's to pay off the collection agency.

People will pay to see the original band. It's what the people really want. Why can't they let the show go on?

[Timesink]

LOL ... and America struggles with its raging indifference

I love threads like this that rampage forward for hours on end over issues of absolutely zero consequences. I hope it ends up with 600 posts. Hell, I hope it ends up with 6000.

That said, I side with mysterio: Dave or the grave. But if a new Van Hagar album actually results in singles that make it to the Top 40 and disrupts the circle jerk that it modern popular music (choice 1: hip-hop; choice 2: tattoo-laden pseudo-angry shirtless teenage suburban allegedly-"punk" screechers), then I'm all for it. ANYTHING to break the monotony monopoly.

[My Favorite Headache]

I hope so...I love all Hagar era Halen. With Humans Being they were really getting to a new place...and then it all fell apart. The bonus track from Balance "Crossing Over" was brilliant.

[My Favorite Headache]

Amen

[My Favorite Headache]

Straight up to her lunchpail