[discostu]

Which one would have bigger liner notes to help me start a fire? Both Carnal Knowledge and Eat Em are horrid albums. VH was a better band with Dave, more fun and the sound worked better with his crappy voice; much like how Black Sabbath was a better band with Ozzy than with Dio.

Probably the thing that loses the most points to me for Van Hagar is that we not only lost Van Halen, we also lost Sammy Hagar his stuff with them wasn't nearly as good as his solo efforts. I really wish Roth could sit on his ego long enough for a reunion tour of the real thing.

[L.N. Smithee]

VH was a better band with Dave, more fun and the sound worked better with his crappy voice; much like how Black Sabbath was a better band with Ozzy than with Dio.

That's a perfect analogy. Ronnie James Dio is an outstanding rock vocalist, and Ozzy is barely one, but Ozzy's comparably weak and whiny voice was the one that everyone heard when they became fans of the band.

Unless you're AC/DC, when you change the singer, you completely change the group. Look at Motley Crue (who cut one forgotten LP without Vince Neil), Audioslave (formerly known as Rage Against The Machine, minus rapper/lyricist Zack De La Rocha and plus former Soundgarden lead singer Chris Cornell), Genesis (who went from progressive rock to power pop when Phil Collins took over lead vocals from Peter Gabriel) and Fleetwood Mac (ditto, when Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were signed up).

[RockinRight]

Hagar was great as a soloist, both on guitar and vocals. The album VOA showcases that he is and always was a true Patriot (and a Republican I might add).

Roth WAS Van Halen (Eddie's an awesome guitarist, and also made the band, but it was the VH/Roth combo that made them great). Roth was pretty crappy on his own, IMHO.