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'Lion' to Be Shot in New Zealand (CS Lewis Alert)
AP ^ | Fri, Dec 19, 2003

Posted on 12/19/2003 12:43:48 PM PST by presidio9

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To: JenB
It would make a good movie, yes, but you could cut it without hurting the storyline...

Yeah, but since you're making movies, what's the point of cutting out the one that would make a good movie? ;-)

21 posted on 12/19/2003 12:58:32 PM PST by r9etb
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To: msdrby
PING
22 posted on 12/19/2003 12:59:45 PM PST by Professional Engineer (I have Weapons of Math Instruction, and I know how to use them)
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To: presidio9
"The Boy" is Prince Caspian. More likely they will combine the two.

Nope. "The Boy" is Prince Cor, who is the lost heir to the throne of Archenland.

This story, BTW, is our first look at Calormen, which is helps us to understand the people in "The Final Battle."

23 posted on 12/19/2003 1:01:10 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Prince Caspian will make a good movie....

"Bother!" said Edmund. "I've left my new torch in Narnia!"
24 posted on 12/19/2003 1:02:09 PM PST by JenB (21 Days Til EntMoot)
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To: r9etb
Nope. "The Boy" is Prince Cor, who is the lost heir to the throne of Archenland.

This story, BTW, is our first look at Calormen, which is helps us to understand the people in "The Final Battle."

You sure about that? It's been over 20 years since I last read these books, but I could have sworn the boy is revealed to be Caspian at the end of the book. BTW, normally I have no use for fantasy books. I like Lewis' Christian metaphors.

25 posted on 12/19/2003 1:03:33 PM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: presidio9
You sure about that? It's been over 20 years since I last read these books

It's been over 20 hours since I finished "The Horse and His Boy." Yes, I'm sure..... ;-)

26 posted on 12/19/2003 1:05:27 PM PST by r9etb
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To: presidio9
There have been two versions of LWW that I have seen - one a very crude cartoon, the other an attempt at live action. Unfortunately, Aslan looks stuffed which sort of spoils the whole idea of the Great Lion, Son of the Emperor-Over-Sea. Until modern film techniques were available, I think the only method that would have worked would have been the blending of live action and animation as in Ralph Bakshi's unfinished LOTR film.

With modern computer graphics they just might be able to pull it off.

general gripe department: LWW is NOT the second book in the series. It is the first book, first one written. The publishers reordered the books a number of years ago to their chronological order within Narnia - bumping LWW to second place. I prefer the original order (it's the one my first American edition has).

Great books. I've read them over and over since receiving them on my fifth birthday (while we were in Mexico - my parents hauled them all the way down there so I could get them on Christmas!)

27 posted on 12/19/2003 1:06:08 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: r9etb
OK. You ought to know then. Is Caspian in that book at all?
28 posted on 12/19/2003 1:06:53 PM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: JenB
In the BBC films, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader was included in Prince Caspian. Actually, to be low budget films, they were pretty good.
29 posted on 12/19/2003 1:07:14 PM PST by twigs
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To: joesnuffy
Wow. Wouldn't a film of That Hideous Strength be something?
30 posted on 12/19/2003 1:07:51 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: presidio9
No. Caspian is four hundred years in the future. It's set during the rein of Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy.

Hope they get Edmund right.
31 posted on 12/19/2003 1:08:59 PM PST by JenB (21 Days Til EntMoot)
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To: presidio9
The boy is NOT Caspian. Caspian is a Telmarine and the son of Caspian the Eighth. The "boy" a.k.a. Shasta is actually Cor, Prince of Archenland, elder twin with Corin Thunderfist who boxed the Lapsed Bear of Stormness until he couldn't see out of his eyes and became a reformed character.
32 posted on 12/19/2003 1:09:28 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: JenB
"It's the usual muddle about times, Pole."
33 posted on 12/19/2003 1:10:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: twigs
I hated the casting of Lucy in the BBC version. Too childish, too chubby, and too obnoxious. And even though Lewis describes her as "golden-haired" she's always cast with dark hair. Even Baynes got it wrong in her illustrations.
34 posted on 12/19/2003 1:12:26 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: presidio9
Is Caspian in that book at all?

No. The story takes place in that time when the children were Kings and Queens in Narnia, long before the time of Caspian.

Caspian shows up in (fittingly enough) "Prince Caspian," in which the children show up again in Narnia, after an interval of many hundreds of Narnian years.

Caspian is also in "Voyage of the Dawn Treader," and makes a couple of cameo appearances in "The Silver Chair."

35 posted on 12/19/2003 1:12:34 PM PST by r9etb
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To: AnAmericanMother
LOL! I see that somebody else has recently read the book....
36 posted on 12/19/2003 1:14:04 PM PST by r9etb
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To: AnAmericanMother
Ah... you have excellent taste. I need to reread those books. It's been years, though I was just talking about them the other night on the way home from Return of the King (odd what your mind turns up at one in the morning; it made sense to connect the two at the time)

Perhaps over Christmas! Although these days, liberals seem to be imitating the White Witch and make it "always winter and never Christmas"...
37 posted on 12/19/2003 1:19:14 PM PST by JenB (21 Days Til EntMoot)
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Moved To Chat :(
38 posted on 12/19/2003 1:22:55 PM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: r9etb
Sheesh, my daughter and I have lengthy passages MEMORIZED - she has adored these books since she was tiny and I read them all aloud to her. Now she has her own set so she can re-read them without having to come borrow mine . . .

What I love best are all the asides to the grownups - "of course, she kept her hand on the handle because she knew it is a very foolish thing to shut oneself into a wardrobe." "he didn't call his parents Father and Mother but Harold and Alberta . . . they were vegetarians and teetotallers and wore a special kind of underclothes . . . " ". . . what used to be called a 'mixed' school, though some people said it was not nearly so mixed as the minds of the people who ran it . .. " "when her friends saw she was no good as a Head, they had her made an Inspector to interfere with other Heads, but when they found she was no good at that either they got her into Parliament, where she lived happily ever after."

I didn't really appreciate all those little tart throwaways until I was a grownup . . . I bet Lewis was a hoot as a conversationalist. I have the audio recording of Lewis reading his "Four Loves" - what a jolly, Irish/Oxford, warm, plummy, comfortable voice.

39 posted on 12/19/2003 1:23:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: presidio9
All the best threads are in Chat. That's where the Hobbitses live...
40 posted on 12/19/2003 1:24:56 PM PST by JenB (21 Days Til EntMoot)
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