[SengirV]

That is too sad. Nothing like pissing on tradition. It's getting more and more like George Carlin's part in the movie Dogma(not for most here).

[Maximilian]

getting more and more like George Carlin's part in the movie Dogma

I wouldn't watch the movie "Dogma" under pain of death, but I did hear about George Carlin's bit and it sounded hilarious: the bishop's new advertising campaign for the diocese: "Buddy Christ" with 2 thumbs up -- no more of that "downer" crucifixion business.