[Unam Sanctam]

Most orthodox Catholics are looking forward to the Passion. Your slur on "Vatican II Catholics", which improperly implies the existence of a new Church since Vatican II, is unwarranted and unfair.

[ultima ratio]

This is disingenuous. It's the Vatican that makes the complete break, talking about conforming to what they call "the conciliar Church"--meaning the Church of Vatican II. It's also the Vatican that suffers from amnesia, never referring to preconciliar popes or councils or documents, rejecting its own history by apologizing excessively for it. It is the Vatican that talks about a "New Advent" and "Second Pentecost" and has attempted to obliterate the Church's own past, even fabricating its own new liturgy. Don't blame traditionalists for any of the present nonsense--blame the regime in Rome which has been aggressively hostile to Tradition now for four decades.

[Maximilian]

Your slur on "Vatican II Catholics", which improperly implies the existence of a new Church since Vatican II, is unwarranted and unfair.

Compare the pictures for yourself. Do these represent the same Church? It looks like a different one to me. And guess who agrees with me? All of the liberals who are running our dioceses and our Vatican hierarchy. They claim that there is such a thing as a "Vatican II Church." They are only to eager to denounce anything that smells of the "pre-conciliar Church." So apparently you are alone in believing that they aren't different.

[Smocker]

Implies?

It did not imply anything, it was a clear statement of fact, Is there a defense for picture 2?

[Robert Drobot]

Unam Sanctam piously writes, "Your slur on "Vatican II Catholics", which improperly implies the existence of a new Church since Vatican II, is unwarranted and unfair."

The Catholic Church leadership is in forbidden denial of His Tradition, while knowing their sin.

Yours attempt to re-define sin as "....slur...." is as transparent as the betrayal by V2 of His Sacred Tradition.

A Sin by any other name remains a sin.