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Dude, that's GREAT!!! (Wiley E. Coyote)

I printed this whole post and read it at home last night.
Dr. Goebbels, Gartell, Garbage,(whatever) is a Quack.

He wants to play "Phantom of the Opera" with people; HE knows this terrible secret that he feels he MUST share with the world! But he only talks in vague riddles and then insults people who question him. He insists on a vow of anonymity, saying he will ONLY reveal his identity 3 days before impact.
Well, it didn't take very long for him to spill the beans, did it? "You fools! Prove me wrong if you CAN!"
I see Lon Chaney hanging from the chandelier now....

In the midst of all this, he takes a 2 week vacation to visit his grandchildren before coming back to CONTINUE his taunting of internet surfers? I may be dumb as a box of horse manure, but If I knew that the end of the world was coming in a month, I'd spend EVERY minute of it with my kids/grandkids. No offense to we FReepers, but I surely wouldn't bother coming back to toy with you or any other message board group about 'what I know'.

Another thing....

This clown says that "of COURSE you can't see it - its coming from DUE SOUTH! It can ONLY be seen from (coincidentally) Austrailia - HIS home. Pardon my ignorance folks, but if this thing is heading at us from due south and can only be seen from Austrailia, HOW in the world can Austrailia be the SAFEST place on earth?
Somebody please clear this up for me.... I feel sorry for all those wallabys, kangaroos and koala bears - they have to share a country with this kook, Dr. Garbage.

This guy is seeking attention. Desperately. I don't know what chemicals he spent all those years working around in his laboratory, but he really should be warning people about the permanent damage caused by THEM.
I wonder what kind of doctor he really is! Has he ever worked on horses? Corns, bunions and ingrown toenails maybe?

This guy is a FROOT LOOP. I shall not refer to him as 'Aussie Bloke' but as 'Toucan Sam'. This bird has flown the coop!

Even if the government were attempting to quell potential civilian rioting that would occur with general knowledge of the "end of the world", there would be signs of massive constructions underground (the "Burrow") preparing to preserve a remnant for repopulating the world. This would be a noticeable drain on the economy. It ain't there.

You're preaaching to the choir, Swordmaker, I know this. I agree completely. I don't think there is anything like this in the works. ON THE OTHER HAND, I will say that open sourced intelligence says that many countries around us have LEARNED a quick and dirty lesson from both Iraq wars, and Afghanastan. That lesson is that the US can't, even with the BIGGEST bombs penetrate very far down. Thus, they are building large, underground facilities to protect their mission-essential military, and/or government personnel. Russia, China, North Korea are all doing this (do some searching, you will find this information in the news). Not that this has anything really to do with asteroids, but it could very well be the next line of thinking coming from the conspiracy folks. (In other words, "well, china, north korea and russia all have been building underground facilities! Why aren't WE!" kind of stuff.) Watch for it. :)

Consider: a world-wide consipracy of silence among astronomers and cosmologists may be possible (I doubt it... think of the egos) but how about a world-wide conspiracy of silence among BUREAUCRATS and POLITICIANS??? ...They haven't squealed! ...

Again, I agree completely. My one, main argument against any conspiracy theory that involves the US government, Illuminati, etc, etc, is that "Our government is full of people like you and I and even dumber-than-rock fools, who can't keep such a secret because they want to brag about it."

Certainly, we keep secrets related to National Security all the time and do it very well. But, secrets that remove rights from our people every chance they get? Secrets that incarcerate people for no reason? Secrets about the end of the world as we know it, and yet life goes on "as normal"? Not no way, not no how. I'd be screaming the truth from the top of a hill if I knew it to be so (that is, that the world is gonna end next Thursday or whenever)!

If this EOW event were nigh, would we have allowed the Space Shuttle to have been sidetracked by one little accident? Wouldn't we be building as many as we could in hopes of a technological breakthrough that would need transportation to space to save us all? The shuttle is grounded! Probably the shuttle would be ready to go, no matter what. However, they wouldn't be building as many as possible. Where we gonna go? Can't move 8 billion people in shuttles, and we do not have a lunar base, no station big enough to support more than a few people for a couple of months. Naw, the space program isn't going to spend money on moving us anywhere we haven't already been and know we can survive.

As to this "Dr. Gartrel" or whatever his name is, I don't know who he is. Never seen the name before this story came up. But you're right. Even idiots like me know that even if ALL the several THOUSAND pieces of space debris up there, and all the satellites, ISS and whatever else happens to fall all at the same time, the amount of matter added back to the planet will be almost nothing, and "gasses" and "radiation" is nothing compared to what hits us every day in the form of x-rays, cosmic radiation and so forth. If, for the sake of argument, a HUGE rock DOES hit us, the amount of dust and debris thrown into the atmosphere by that impact will far exceed anything that falls out of space. And it will cause dust in the air for months to darken or block out the sun. A kind of "nuclear winter" will ensue. But, that's the dangers of being in a shooting gallery like our solar system! Still IF he IS a scientist, he might have referred to "friction" instead of "drag" because a lot of people aren't really up on physics, but almost everyone understands "friction"... (shrugs).

Speaking of the satellites if...Why are the GPS satellites still working?

:) I think you got it. :) This is how we pick apart these sorts of theories. Bit by bit, piece by piece. That's an obvious error, one that can easily show that he's... well, to be blunt, FULL OF IT. :)

I think the test of this scenario is in the reports of the naval ships going to sea.

I don't think these things are in any way related, but, COULD BE, hence are used as "connecting items" in the conspiracy (that the government is keeping it quiet). In other words, you can go out on any day of the week and find stories to support whatever wild-assed theory you want, even if the material isn't really related. It takes a conspiracy to hold it together. Conspiracies usually can't be PROVEN.

But he only talks in vague riddles and then insults people who question him. He insists on a vow of anonymity, saying he will ONLY reveal his identity 3 days before impact.

If I haven't personally communicated with this guy myself in the past, I would be very, very surprised. Eventually, they all come through one of the web sites I frequent. Even so, ALL of these people have the exact same modus operandi, in that they will never reveal themselves (aliases are almost ALWAYS used). They will attack the questioners, especially if the questioner happens to be a "non-believer" in the person's theory, and those attacks range from personal attacks, to attempting to discredit someone's credentials (believe me, they have tried that on me numerous times) to simply calling someone names. It just depends on the level of maturity in these folks. For the most part that level of maturity falls somewhat short is just about all of them. They ALL go for the throat when they are proven wrong, or shown to be inconsistant with their data. They almost ALWAYS start squealing about how "you're PART OF THE CONSPIRACY" which in turn focuses on YOU instead of their theory. In other words, you're all learning a GREAT lesson from this :) Pay attention to the way they act. If you had a real, hard story, one that affects the world, are you really going to keep it a secret if you can name names and prove your data? I doubt it. My name is my REAL name. I stick by my statements with my name. If I'm stupid enough to post something that is wrong, then it is stuck to my NAME. I try very hard to verify any data I post. (Sometimes I'm wrong, but, we're all human... except the aliens that work for me in the basement).

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Pardon my ignorance folks, but if this thing is heading at us from due south and can only be seen from Austrailia, HOW in the world can Austrailia be the SAFEST place on earth?

technically speaking, something COULD come in from another hemisphere, and yet impact on another. That's possible, but given the fact that Keplerian physics WORKS, it is unlikely that anything would be coming "straight at us" anyway, and whatever the object is will be sighted long before its impact. Besides, CAN HE SEE it? I've not heard that anyone has SEEN anything yet. If we can't SEE it, the WE DON'T KNOW IT IS THERE. That's important. If there is a prediction of something hitting us, and yet no one has SHOWN US WHERE IT IS, then is probably ain't there. If this guy has seen it, show us the photographic evidence. It's not THAT damned difficult even with a small telescope to take a few pictures over a few nights, do a few calculations and figure out some keplerian elements that can be plugged into an orbital program to show the orbits of such objects...

This guy is seeking attention. Desperately. I don't know what chemicals he spent all those years working around in his laboratory, but he really should be warning people about the permanent damage caused by THEM.

If you check my other LONG post (sorry these are long) you will note I mentioned that most of these folks are "anarchists". For some reason, the MAJORITY Of them seem to believe that it's ok to use any sort of drug to "expand your mind", and want to legalize a lot of those drugs as well. I'm betting there were no drugs in his lab, and I doubt there is a lab at all, and that those drugs you mentioned were all part and parcel of his "youth" (which, he is likely still rather young. The majority of these conspiracy folks are in their 20s, some in their 30s. A few are older, but usually well-known, like Hoagland).