42 Percent Of Americans Pee In The Shower - 7 Percent Never Bathe

NCBuy News ^ | 7/27/04

[Doctor Wu]

42 Percent Of Americans Pee In The Shower - 7 Percent Never Bathe

PISCATAWAY, N.Y. (Wireless Flash) -- Urine trouble now. According to a new survey, at least four out of every 10 Americans pee while taking a shower.

According to a shower survey sponsored by VertiSpa, 42 percent urinate while bathing, certainly pissing off the 58 percent who don't.

That's not the only stat splashed from the shower study. The average shower is 101 degrees Fahrenheit and uses nearly 50 gallons of water.

-- 52 percent of Americans sing in the shower, with "Singin' In The Rain" being the top tune.

-- 53 percent of people shower in the morning, while 29 percent wait until evening.

-- Finally, the scariest stat of all: 7 percent of Americans claim they never bathe at all.

[LibWhacker]

ONLY if you never run water in the shower.

Well, water runs in your toilet bowl, too, but I do hope you clean it out once in a while.

Bacteria will build up despite running water. And not just any bacteria, but the pathogenic organisms that thrive in raw sewage. Let's make a deal: You don't shower in my house and I DEFINITELY won't shower in yours!!!

But then, your point -- such as it is -- applies equally well to the trap in your toilet... If you never bother flushing.

No it doesn't. You're incorrect again. Your toilet traps bacteria completely below and behind the trap, unlike when you pee down the shower drain. I was going to post this diagram earlier, but figured everybody knew this stuff. I see I was wrong in that assumption.

As you can see, in a toilet, NONE of the long-term bacterial buildup is above the trap, unlike in your shower.

If your argument were valid (and again, it's not) then showers would routinely stink up the house from the effect of bacteria on the grime and dead skin cells you wash off while showering.

False comparison. We're talking about pathogens that grow in raw sewage. Do you want to stand in them? You want your family and your guests to stand in them? You want to wipe them on your towels when you dry your feet and track them across your floor into bed with you? Be my guest (just not at my house!).

But in actual use, your washing water flushes itself to beyond the P-Trap due to the clean water that follows it down the drain during a normal shower. And so does any other liquid that goes down the drain during the shower...

Hope you don't use that argument to avoid cleaning your toilets.

BTW, when WAS the last time you scrubbed out your shower/urinal drains??? Do your drains ever tend to back up while you are showering/peeing in them?

You see, it's not just the pee that is the problem. It's the smelly and dangerous pathogens that like to live in urine that you and your family and your guests are soaking in when that happens.

Don't argue. My logic is sound. And stop peeing in your tub, for Heaven's sake!

[DouglasKC]

You can splash about in your own urine all you want. You can even claim that behavior represents the height of civilization. Just don't expect me to agree with you.

Not to be gross here, but do you ever have fecal matter wash off your back hole? Yes, because everyone does. How is that any different from peeing in the shower...sanitary wise.

[DouglasKC]

Same question...not to be gross here, but do you ever have fecal matter wash off your back hole? Yes, because everyone does. How is that any different from peeing in the shower...sanitary wise.

[Clemenza]

Low class and low morals frequently go together.

I am proud to be an American. Its the trash of all colors (in the Red AND Blue states) that make my stomach turn.

[Khurkris]

"They saw an orangutan stand on his head and pee in his own mouth."

Your son will tell stories of this amazing feat for the rest of his life.
This was truly a "Golden Moment" for him and grandpa & grandma.

p.s....was this zoo in Tijuana?

[Flashlight]

You can splash about in your own urine all you want. You can even claim that behavior represents the height of civilization. Just don't expect me to agree with you....

I'm with you here. I've never heard of such a thing. I think it's sick. And I can see there's no use arguing the point with anyone who thinks differently.

I can see if it's some kind of emergency (the toilet's broke or whatever), but as a normal kind of daily thing to do? you've got to be kidding. I really hope nobody asks these people if they pee in swimming pools. I don't think I'd want them in mine.

[Ichneumon]

Well, water runs in your toilet bowl, too, but I do hope you clean it out once in a while.

Of course I do -- please stop dragging in red herrings, this comment of yours is irrelevant to your original erroneous "point", and appears to be dragged in just to divert the discussion.

Bacteria will build up despite running water. And not just any bacteria, but the pathogenic organisms that thrive in raw sewage.

Again, thanks for the red herring. This in no way makes correct your incorrect statements about shower drains.

[But then, your point -- such as it is -- applies equally well to the trap in your toilet... If you never bother flushing.]
No it doesn't.

The hell it doesn't. You're sounding like the guy in the Monty Python sketch, who just disagrees with whatever the other guy says.

You're incorrect again.

And when was I incorrect the *first* time?

Your toilet traps bacteria completely below and behind the trap, unlike when you pee down the shower drain.

Behind the trap is sufficient. Your fixation on "below" is a red herring, since BOTH the toilet trap and the shower trap have surfaces "above" the water in the downstream side of the trap, *and* drain the water beyond the trap DOWNHILL away from the trap itself.

I was going to post this diagram earlier, but figured everybody knew this stuff.

Don't presume to teach your Grandpa to suck eggs, sonny.

I see I was wrong in that assumption.

I see that you try to make up in arrogant snottiness that which you have failed to demonstrate with evidence. Are you *sure* you're not a liberal?

As you can see, in a toilet, NONE of the long-term bacterial buildup is above the trap, unlike in your shower.

See the areas labeled "Weir" and "Trapway"? Oh looky -- they're "above the trap". Care to try again?

I figured everybody knew this stuff, but I see I was wrong in that assumption...

[If your argument were valid (and again, it's not) then showers would routinely stink up the house from the effect of bacteria on the grime and dead skin cells you wash off while showering.]
False comparison.

Valid comparison.

We're talking about pathogens that grow in raw sewage.

If you think that your normal shower/bath water doesn't likewise have "pathogens that grow in raw sewage", you're even more unfamiliar with biology than you are with plumbing.

Do you want to stand in them? You want your family and your guests to stand in them? You want to wipe them on your towels when you dry your feet and track them across your floor into bed with you?

See above. You're already standing in them. But thanks for yet another red herring.

[But in actual use, your washing water flushes itself to beyond the P-Trap due to the clean water that follows it down the drain during a normal shower. And so does any other liquid that goes down the drain during the shower...]
Hope you don't use that argument to avoid cleaning your toilets.

Of course not. Red herring again.

BTW, when WAS the last time you scrubbed out your shower/urinal drains???

When was the last time you scrubbed out yours? See above, you've got the same alleged "long-term bacteria buildup" with yours as I do with mine, but I doubt you've reamed out your shower drain recently. Your dead skin cells, hair, rinsings from your genitals and butt, junk you tracked in on the soles of your feet and living between your toes, airborne bacteria trapped in your hair, the gunk from under your band-aid, whatever the dog left on you while licking your hand, etc., all go down that drain. So don't try to pretend that your shower drain is somehow pristine enough to eat off of while mine is a hellhole of toxins just because once a month or so I find myself needing to relieve myself while showering and see no need to step out to a different drain hole into the same wastewater system in order to dispose of it, especially when I'm already standing over one that's being actively flushed by running water at the moment and is already far enough from a surgical sterility that a bit of fresh pee isn't going to make a bit of difference. Pouring my mop water out into the tub to dispose of it is going to be a thousand times worse.

Do your drains ever tend to back up while you are showering/peeing in them?

No, does your toilet ever overflow and run into the kitchen? And do your red herrings ever cease? And if your shower drains do back up because of poor maintenance, don't kid yourself about the level of bacteria in *your* shower either.

You see, it's not just the pee that is the problem.

Is it just me, or does LibWhacker seem to be unusually obsessed with urine?

It's the smelly and dangerous pathogens that like to live in urine that you and your family and your guests are soaking in when that happens.

Then you'd better banish your toilet before it overruns into your vegetable garden and contaminates your red herring patch.

Don't argue. My logic is sound.

I'm sure you believe that.

Hmm, or maybe not -- if you were sure your "logic" was sound, why would you start flinging so many red herrings as if you were trying to flail about, distracting attention away from your original failed points (e.g., your false assertion that a shower drain is like an open sewer line), while introducing a scattershot of half a dozen new points in the hopes that one might stick?

[Ichneumon]

I'm with you here. I've never heard of such a thing. I think it's sick.

You're entitled to whatever emotion-driven response you care to have.

And I can see there's no use arguing the point with anyone who thinks differently.

Yes, because apparently there aren't any rational reasons (as opposed to "that's what I was taught and anything else is outrageous, because, well, it's different") by which such an argument could be won.

I really hope nobody asks these people if they pee in swimming pools. I don't think I'd want them in mine.

Swimming pools (and hot tubs) are quite different, as you'd see if you'd read the rest of the thread.

[Ichneumon]

Low class and low morals frequently go together.

That's what the elitists say, anyway.

I am proud to be an American. Its the trash of all colors (in the Red AND Blue states) that make my stomach turn.

That's what... But I repeat myself.

[Clemenza]

If elitism means having high standards, then put me down for being an elitist.

[GOP_Proud]

Bump

[GeronL]

what lies. 7% don't bathe. Please. some people were having fun at the surveyers expense. Some people only bathe a few times a year, but they do bathe. =o)

[Arrowhead1952]

I'm sure michael moore falls into the 7%. At 350+ lbs, he probably cannot find a bathtub or shower large enough to fit into.

I don't know if it's true or not .. but a friend of a friend knows a guy that says he was hired, for a while, with three other people to help wash him down. He said they used a pressure washer and brushes and then squeegee'd him off afterwards.

For that price, he could just run himself thru a car wash.

[Arrowhead1952]

Heh...when Michael Moore goes to the carwash, it ain't to wash his car, pal.

I didn't see your post back to me, but I had the same reply to sawmill trash in the post above.

[Auntbee]

Those are all quite interesting. If I had a choice, I prefer the shower.

[sharktrager]

Nope.

Ft. Worth.

[Petronski]

Not to be gross here, but do you ever have fecal matter wash off your back hole?

Not to be gross here? Not to be gross here?

Yes, because everyone does. How is that any different from peeing in the shower...sanitary wise.

I'm not sure what you're describing, but whatever it is, I doubt it is something you do by design, nor does it sound like something that you wouldn't avoid if you could.

[Petronski]

I'm with you here. I've never heard of such a thing. I think it's sick. And I can see there's no use arguing the point with anyone who thinks differently.

I'm glad to have people chime in with the same perspective I had, something like "Huh? What? You do what?"

Most bathrooms situate the toilet less than ten feet from the shower, more likely less than five. Why is it so hard to pee before getting into the shower, or just after getting out?

Absent some kind of spastic bladder that makes the in-shower-pee unavoidable, there's no sound explanation whatsoever.

[Petronski]

That sounds a lot like, "it's just how I've been conditioned, but I've never actually stopped to wonder if it made sense."

No, it sounds like "there's the toilet, I'm going to pee there."

[Petronski]

Peeing in the toilet? You elitist!