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WinXP SP2 = security placebo? ( Some are not impressed with MS efforts )
The Register ^ | Thursday 2nd September 2004 10:48 GMT | Thomas C Greene

Posted on 09/07/2004 4:47:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Reg Review We evaluated the security features of Windows XP SP2 on a test machine, following a clean install of XP Pro with no configuration changes and no third-party software or drivers installed. We installed XP with the NTFS file system, choosing all of the factory defaults, then patched it with each recommended security update including SP-1 (required), before installing SP2.

While we found that there are indeed a few minor improvements worthy of acknowledgment, in particular, some rather low-level improvements that don't show to the admin or user, overall, SP2 did little to improve our system's practical security, leaving too many services and networking components enabled, bungling permissions, leaving IE and OE vulnerable to malicious scripts, and installing a packet filter that lacks a capacity for egress filtering.

The new Security Center utility with its frequent Security Alert popups will certainly give users the impression that SP2 is a security-oriented package, as Microsoft's PR boilerplate promises. However, The Security Center does little beyond warning users that the firewall is disabled, that automatic updating is disabled, or that antivirus software has not been installed. It may look impressive, but the SP2 package fails to provide several of the most important, basic modifications required to run Windows safely on an Internet-connected machine.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: security; windowsxp
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Sounds like it might be smart to wait till this gets sorted out.....
1 posted on 09/07/2004 4:47:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Some experiencing re-start problems. Download/install goes fine. But you just can't re-start your PC...

A tech friend of mine said 15% of Microsoft XP users having problem with SP/2...That's a heck of a lot of folks...

2 posted on 09/07/2004 4:50:20 PM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: donozark

Wasn't aware of that part of the problem.

They aren't even mentioning that , here.


3 posted on 09/07/2004 4:52:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Micro$oft Security: Let's make it a royal pain to copy file X from machine A to machine B on someone's home network. Let's make them fiddle around with security settings and permissions and sharing, etc.

One could make the case that security actually costs more in lost productivity than it saves from potential hackers. I work with secure systems, and have ported OpenSSL multiple times to multiple platforms so I can say this.

4 posted on 09/07/2004 4:52:54 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just ordered a CD for my new computer

I was waiting for it before I go online

Guess it doesn't make sense to wait now


5 posted on 09/07/2004 4:53:22 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hmmm... how many posts before someone utters the "L" word? (and, just to note, the L-word isn't a bad word in my book...just wondering).


6 posted on 09/07/2004 4:54:26 PM PDT by mattdono ([John Edwards before going on stage 20 minutes after President] Hold muh' senses)
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To: All

I am in the It field, DO NOT INSTALL. They will once again come out with a fix for this fix. It is a demon, does not play well with active directory or any vpn clients.


7 posted on 09/07/2004 4:55:49 PM PDT by kendu
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I have SP2 and don't have a problem. I slip-streamed it onto a CD and did a fresh install with it. You will always needs 3rd party software such as anti-virus, anti-spyware, and after-market firewall. Microsoft can NOT include these into its operating system because they will get sued, remember the Clinton administration suing Microsoft because they included Internet Explorer into their operating system.
8 posted on 09/07/2004 4:56:09 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: donozark

I in#t^*8ed I! La^s&*t we*k and don@'t se%%e*m t0 ha$e an% Pro%*&bl#3Ms at at at at at A!_+ll.


9 posted on 09/07/2004 4:56:43 PM PDT by SirChas
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As a longtime Windows network admin, I have come to learn the hard way to hold off on installing Microsoft patches. (actually most software vendor patches).
Its a sad state of affairs when a company puts so much hype behind something that really does so little!


10 posted on 09/07/2004 4:57:02 PM PDT by SpecialEd
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To: uncbob

I don't know what the true facts are, I was thinking about doing a big update, but was hesistant knowing the history of these major updates.... when I saw this.....


11 posted on 09/07/2004 4:57:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: kendu

Same ole deal.....


12 posted on 09/07/2004 4:59:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: SirChas

Is that a babelfish translation??? ......ROFL!


13 posted on 09/07/2004 4:59:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: mattdono

Would that 'L' word be Linux..?


14 posted on 09/07/2004 5:00:01 PM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks to me like it's just Microsoft getting into the firewall and anti-virus markets.


15 posted on 09/07/2004 5:00:25 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Only dummies play poker with George W. Bush.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump for Morning meeting discussion item.

Cheers,

knews hound


16 posted on 09/07/2004 5:05:48 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

!2ps retfa enif tsuj si retupmoc yM . oN


17 posted on 09/07/2004 5:10:15 PM PDT by SirChas
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To: donozark
I'm one of them. After ironing out all sorts of crash bugs and conflicts, my machine now takes much longer to boot and hangs at the BIOS screen for a good 30-60 secs before proceeding through the rest of the start-up sequence. God, if only there was a reasonable alternative to Windows (and, no, OSX and Linux don't count).
18 posted on 09/07/2004 5:10:40 PM PDT by ECM
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To: donozark

Will not be installing this!!

These problems are legendary already. Where there is blinding choking smoke, there must be a ....FIIIIRE!

I look at MS as a car dealership service department. Take your vehicle in and it comes out busted up worse than when you dropped it off.


19 posted on 09/07/2004 5:12:31 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: FesterUSMC

Do a fresh install of XP then install SP2. You will not have any problems. It is not necessary to install SP1.
Best feature is the popup blocker in IE.


20 posted on 09/07/2004 5:14:11 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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