Posted on 12/13/2004 7:37:47 AM PST by B4Ranch
93 is a different story, I think. It went straight down into the ground, didn't it. That could have resulted in the black box becoming little tiny piece of metal.
I have no idea what happened. It just seems odd that a couple of FF's, now they are retired, start to talk.
Those planes almost certainly deviated from their prescribed flight plans
The planes deviated from flight paths because the pilots were killed. The hijackers turned off the tracking transponder systems and reset the autopilots to the WTC destination. Their deviations were not noticed, but the lack of transponder signals were noticed. No one knew where the planes were for a while. I am certain some ATF alarms were raised while people wondered what was happening. There were also calls from cell phones and in flight phones. People knew but the usual hijacking up to this time resulted in a plane being flown to Cuba.
The black boxes were destroyed in the collapse of the buildings with the resultant pressure and grinding of tons and tons of concrete. Use your head, things were ground to smytherines in that environment. Remember the silly story of the tourist who supposedly "road" the collapsing building down and survived? What will you believe? What makes sense? BTW the tourist was a hoax too.
It is identifiable as an object rather than a piece of trashed rubble. It is not destroyed, but clearly still in one piece. It is something a person would pick up and say, hmm, what could this be?
I'm pretty sure those screens were not from the floors impacted by the planes. I had a friend that worked on 103, they found his body about 1 month later. I also had 3 other friends that worked on that floor, as far as I know no remains have been identified for two of them, and the third I think it was about a year before some piece was identified.
While you worked in the pit I'm sure some amazing things were found, but there must have been logical reasons for their survival such as positioning before the collapse or protection from a void combined with no fire or water damage damage.
No wonder he's 'honorary' - obviously Bellone's a charm!
I wannna go huntin' with this guy!
If the objective of this theory is to demonstrate a cover up, it would seem that the recovery of flt 93's flight recorder and the release of it's information would put a kink in the theory.
it has always been incredibly fishy that these boxes weren't found. They're made to survive and virtually always do.
The same can be said about skyscrapers, but this was an exceptionally destructive situation.
I knew two people who disappeared in that building. Not a single cell that used to make up their body has ever been identified. They were vaporized. That doesn't happen very often either.
Maybe he's also an honorary bloodhound!
No, they're not labeled "black box". And besides, they are optical orange.
Yours is the most logical comment on the thread. Thank you.
"...unknown bureau agents..."
It's seems there's a lot of that lately. What are these people? The secret police? I thought we were rid of them when Hitler was defeated. I want to see a business card from these guys. I want to see not only their office address but their home address and their social security number. They work for me and I'm going to insist on accountability. Then, if one says something that is in violation of his oath to protect the Constitution, he can be deported as fraudulently naturalized.
I would imagine the agents were wearing coveralls just like everyone else. Probably even had FBI written on the left front and in big lettering across the back. I am confident that the NYPD did check them for badges and ID cards.
Once they put on the coveralls, I doubt that they felt any more identification was necessary.
Which is not unusual in this day and time where revisionism runs rampant and regularly occurs in our society.
In other words if you don't like this account wait awhile and another debunking will appear with the "real scoop" and then another, and another and so on and on!
I could swear the boxes were found.
I remember the victims' families heard the cockpit tapes. Where else would the tapes have come from - if not the "Black Box" (which by the way - are Orange).
Sounds like Bravo Sierra to me.
It didn't have to Melt. It simply had to bend.
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It's one of my favorites, too.
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I recall that as well. Some of the families chose not to listen, the rest heard the tapes in private.
My Bad...
Black box wasn't found....
Check old news stories for more information.
Which is where I find this...
Apparently, the Book Deal is True...
http://www.summeroftruth.org/groundzero.html
Kinda like what spews from politicians mouths, huh?
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