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To: Houmatt

When a child is murdered in a home, usually it is the parent. These people usually are troubled and poor. They are drug users or alchholics. And they leave evidence all over the place so prosecuting them is a no-brainer.

I think the ransom note showed hatred to the police, FBI and John Ramsey--they even call him John in the body of the letter. They say they are a small foreign faction with knowledge about police tactics and police serveilance.

Here is some background about the Osage Murders of the 1920s. The FBI file on this is--I think--where AIM got a lot of their ideas about the lies they told at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. They alleged that the FBI was refusing to investigate "suspicious deaths" but for a long time never said who had supposedly died suspiciously. The FBI did an investigation and explained these deaths. See http://www.noparolepeltier.com

Here is some background:

In the 1920s, a man named Hale hired people to murder rich Osage Indians in Oklahoma for their oil well head rights and for their insurance money. More than 20 Indians died, but a source critical of the FBI (Dennis McAuliffe) claims it was more. I think in the FBI documents, the Indians told the FBI about 20, but it is a long and compicated file.
Hale had a nephew who was married to an Indian girl from a large wealthy family with many oil heads and he controlled this nephew.

Hale hired a bootlegger and all around criminal named John Ramsey to actually do some of these murders for money. Indians were shot, blown up and poisoned. When the home of a white man with an Indian wife was blown up (he was trying to alert the authorities I think) white people really noticed that someone was murdering Indians and that it wasn't just gun accidents, suicides and alchohol poisoning.

The Osage leaders hired a lawyer who got the FBI involved and have publically enrolled their thanks to the FBI in the history of their tribe for a job well done.

All of this can be read in FBI files and in a book by Lawrence Hogan called "The Osage Indian Murders." Hogan was an FBI agent and a US Congressman.

The Indian killer John Ramsey was realeased about 20 some years after these murders from a life sentence. I would have hoped he would have been executed, but the FBI went to court in his case 3-4 times, so don't blame the FBI. There are over 3000 pages in the FBI files that show what the FBI accomplished at a time when they were not very strong. They got involved when the local officials couldn't/wouldn't deal with the killings. The FBI went underground and posed as cowboys, medicine men, and insurance salesmen to talk to Indians who would not have talked otherwise.

Some white people who tried to give Washington information were blown up or killed in other ways, too. One, travelling to Washington to talk to the FBI was thrown off the train. So I can see why the Indians were so scared and why this was called the "Time of Terror."

Now why is this important? It is important because the AIM extremists are obviously intimately familiar with this case and (and thus the name John Ramsey) since the lies they spread about the supposed uninvestigated deaths at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation--also called the "Time of Terror" like the Osage "Time of Terror"-- are based on this earlier story of the real murders at Osage.

So why is this important?

AIM propaganda was that AIM activists were being murdered at Pine Ridge. AIM blamed the FBI and Indian leaders and policemen whom AIM claimed were FBI stooges. This myth was spread to discredit the FBI which investigates serious crimes on Indian reservations.

When the two young FBI agents were gunned down by the Indian criminal Leonard Peltier and his cohorts, AIM sent some guy with a hood on his face to talk to a writer named Matthiessen. This guy "confessed" to the writer that he killed Peltier. The writer Matthiessen put it in his book. He should have called the FBI if someone was confessing murder of FBI agents to him. This person came to be known as "Mr. X."

There are allegations that this Mr. X was a person who had the last name of Hill. It may have been Harry David Hill. I also read that this professor Ward Churchill was one of the people who orchestrated this Mr. X hoax. That is, he may have orchestrated a fabricated witness who confessed to a murder.

So the main AIM goals and tactics that I see are:

1. the goal of discrediting law enforcement--both the police and the FBI, not to make LE better, but to make Indian people unwilling to tell the FBI about crimes. This would have suited Peltier and his criminal gang who were burglars and killers. It may have also suited white leftists who wanted to discredit the FBI. They don't want the FBI to be better, they want to ruin it so that there is no confidence in the law and the government to protect people.

2. The use of a fake witness to discredit the FBI and the courts.

3. Spreading a conspiracy theory that the FBI and police are protecting a criminal conspiracy.

Now, pan to Boulder Colorado. This is the home of AIM activists and political radicals such as Lee Hill and Ward Churchill who hate the FBI and make up lies about it.

These radicals aren't trying to help Indians get their rights and improve their education and standard of living, which I would applaud. Some may think that is what they are doing, of course. And I do not exclude that the goals of the leftists and the Indian activist may at times diverge. This would account for the splits in the movement.

Lee Hill has claimed in the media that the FBI hates Peltier because Peltier is a leader of the Indian people. Nonsense. The FBI hates Peltier because he killed two of their agents and wants to get out of jail.

Lee Hill also told the media that retired CIA guys are dying of suspicious suicides. The paper quoted others to make the case that the CIA is killing agents who know something dirty about the CIA. There is no proof of this except that one CIA guy who had criminal charges against him committed suicide.

So now in Boulder it is rumored that there are suicides just like Pine Ridge Indians were told.

Also, Lee Hill brings forth a witness, Nancy Krebs, who has her analogy in the fake witness Mr. X at Pine Ridge. Lee Hill is both their lawyers. Go figure.

Lee Hill lets Nancy Krebs tells the media (while supposedly in hiding for her safety in an AIM "safe" house) that there is a gang of dangerous pedophiles in Boulder.

The fact that the cops and the FBI think this woman is a fabricator and that she has a reputation in California for the same thing is touted as "proof" that the FBI and the police are covering it up. Some amazing articles are published on the Internet that claim that whole agencies of the government--FBI, CIA, Army--are really giant pedophile rings. I believe this orchestrated media campaign against the government is the real conspiracy.

Lee Hill [see "Accidental Jurist"] even claims that someone is trying to kill him. He claims now he has neurological problems as a result of a car accident and that it may not have been an accident.

Lee Hill had a brief work experience in a California detective agency called VERLOC. One of his brief partners was a CIA official who retired from the CIA after a long career. The CIA official's company now has a different name. Lee Hill could have learned a lot of tricks from the CIA guy before the relationship soured.

The head of a JonBenet Ramsey forum claims that Lee Hill did not name that detective agency VERLOC. I don't know the truth, but it does demonstrate that Lee Hill is a source for Ramsey website information. This is a very important thing to think about. AIM people are manipulating the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation.

VERLOC is the name of an anarchist in Joseph Contrad's satiric spy novel The Secret Agent. VERLOC is a member of a moribund anarchist organization and at the same time a source for the Russian/Czarist intelligence service in London. The Russians want him to blow up the Greenwich Observatory to prove that anarchist are a problem. VERLOC (rhymes with SHERLOCK) sends the retarded little brother of his wife out with the bomb, and the child blows himself up.

Why is this company name, VERLOC, really strange?Because AIM activists were involved in the bombing of the Mount Rushmore Visitor Center in the 1970s. They had all kinds of weapons and explosives.

John Ramsey was the name of an notorious Indian killer. He was even the "bad guy" in the comic books that glorified the FBI in the 1940s because the FBI prosecuted Ramsey for murdering the Osage Indians. A little FBI propaganda, it is true, but I think the FBI account is basically true and something they are proud of. They tried to help the Osage in a very difficult time when the criminals were preying on them.

AIM activists who say the FBI is against the Indians have an agenda. And the organizers of the Pine Ridge Propaganda know who John Ramsey is. He is the epitome of the white man who kills Indians. He is a symbol.




66 posted on 02/05/2005 9:57:56 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Please see post number 57. It applies to you.


67 posted on 02/05/2005 9:59:37 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: Snapple

Then why haven't they publicized their joy at the death of this innocent little girl.


68 posted on 02/05/2005 10:00:58 AM PST by marty60
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To: Snapple

Nancy Krebs? Is she the Krebs psycho? (I have a vague recollection of hearing about that in a biology course...)


137 posted on 02/05/2005 12:34:57 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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