Posted on 02/20/2005 5:40:53 PM PST by oldrip
I figured as much!
Oh, really?
During the early years after its introduction into Japan, tobacco became the subject of much prohibitive legislation, but in spite of legal hindrances, the cultivation and use of tobacco continued to spread.
By the time when the bans were lifted in the seventeenth century, tobacco was firmly established as one of the most popular consumer luxuries throughout all social levels, including the rank and file of the lower and middle strata of the population.
It's not about the "right to smoke".
Will smoking increase your risk of different cancers and diseases? All scientific proof says yes.
Will free rock climbing increase your chances of death and/or injury? All scientific proof says yes.
Will smoking kill you? No. Genetics has a far greater impact on whether you get any type cancer or disease than smoking does.
Will free rock climbing kill you? No.
The stance of many of us here is that as long as tobacco is a legal commodity, the property owner should be allowed to choose whether they want to allow, or disallow, it's use.
It's not about a, "right to smoke", or encouraging smoking for another. It's about the rights of the private property owner, and antismoker cabal using junk science and lies about ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke) to continue to receive funding, in the millions of dollars, and using the power of government to enforce their likes and dislikes.
Can I say your an idiot?You forgot to post something else to him.
Click HERE! to claim your prize.
What? I don't understand, Meek.....
My (usual) bad humor. That link goes to the classic
"You are an idiot" smiley's and audio singing.I just meant you forgot to send him THAT in your post.
Just being silly. (Whoops! Silly got banned, didn't he?).
:^)
I just meant you forgot to send him THAT in your post.
Just being silly. (Whoops! Silly got banned, didn't he?).
Hehe! Sorry. It got lost in MY translation. LOL! Still not sure where it came from, but that's ok. hehe!
As well you should. I have never stated that you CAN'T smoke. I have stated that you SHOULDN'T smoke. If one makes an informed decision, based upon available facts, that is one thing. If someone makes a decision based upon emotion, that is something else.
An alcoholic will never think to blame himself for his actions, his career plumet and his failing health. You know the risks, you've accepted them; and that is your right.
Let's see, where to start.
First, my opinions are all based upon governmental and education based studies. These were linked on numerous posts, I simply had the guts to voice a dissenting opinion. When someone says that smoking and cancer have no corellation, I'll jump on it; with or without your permission.
However, metesky have chosen to approach this topic from a more juvenile point of view. You bravely hid behind your keyboard and made a series of personal attacks. This is perhaps the weakest form of debate. Face it metesky; you are a cowardly sniper. I doubt you possess the ability to argue without getting personal, so I thought maybe you would like to be insulted on-line; as you saw fit to do to me. You see, I'm capable of stooping to your level too.
Do you have anything at all to add to the subject at hand, or would you prefer to talk about me some more? Grow up, you may be chronologically old enough to vote; but your immaturity is showing.
Oh grow up. American has more important pressing matters at hand then your asinine views on smoking! And your ASS is showing.
LOL!!! That's funny. I might need to borrow it on occasion, if I may.
haha! Absolutely. Be my guest. :^)
Push yourself away from the computer. Pick up your dictionary ( I assume a smart guy like you has one). Look up the word "correlation". Now look up the word "causation" (This should be fairly easy for you; we're still in the "c" file, not that many pages for you to turn). Discern difference.
Correlation does not equal causation.
However, metesky have chosen to approach this topic from a more juvenile point of view. You bravely hid behind your keyboard and made a series of personal attacks. This is perhaps the weakest form of debate. Face it metesky; you are a cowardly sniper. I doubt you possess the ability to argue without getting personal, so I thought maybe you would like to be insulted on-line; as you saw fit to do to me. You see, I'm capable of stooping to your level too.
Actually, I'm quite a bold sniper, especially when presented with a big juicy slow moving target, one that purposely tries to confuse the meaning of words to make nonsense points, one that claims to be a conservative yet constantly yelps about the lifestyles of others, one so altruistic as to demand that all others conform to his pure style of living, mawkishly yapping at the heels of independent adult citizens, "If I can do it, you can too."
What if we don't want to quit, cowgirl? Until the gooberment and twits like you get the cajones to ban tobacco, STFU.
Besides, all your huffing and puffing (pardon the expression) has already put you far below my level and that of all the fine smokers and property rights defenders on this and other tobacco related threads.
But still, we want to thank you for your concern and for bringing us all these health statistics that so very few of us mature adult smokers who have been hashing the subject around for five years or so, really hadn't been aware of.
You can be our research department from now on, our go-to-guy, OK?
cor·re·la·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kôr-lshn, kr-) n.
A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime. Statistics. The simultaneous change in value of two numerically valued random variables: the positive correlation between cigarette smoking and the incidence of lung cancer; the negative correlation between age and normal vision.
An act of correlating or the condition of being correlated.
Denial, the last refuge of the ignorant. I'd suggest you take your own advice, and pick up a dictionary, as you obviously have no idea what you are babbling about. Snipers make such easy debate opponents, for just about all they know is attack the person, rather than learn the material.
BTW, as you apparently don't know how to do this, here's the Link
Oh, please. I'll indulge you no further.
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