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No One Elected to Baseball Hall of Fame
AP ^ | 03/02/05 | RONALD BLUM

Posted on 03/02/2005 1:27:02 PM PST by nypokerface

TAMPA, Fla. - Gil Hodges, Ron Santo and everyone else on the ballot fell short Wednesday as once again the baseball Veterans Committee failed to elect anyone to the Hall of Fame.

Hodges and Santo came the closest with 65 percent — 75 percent was needed for induction — each falling eight votes shy. Tony Oliva and Jim Kaat were the only other players to be picked on more than half of the 80 ballots.

In 2003, the redesigned committee also pitched a shutout. There will not be another election until 2007, when managers, umpires and executives are due to be considered.

The current 83-member committee includes the 60 living Hall of Famers plus eight members of the writers' wing, 14 members of the broadcasters' wing and one member of the old Veterans Committee. All but three turned in their paper ballots this year.

Hodges, the former Brooklyn first baseman and New York Mets manager, fell 11 votes short in 2003, when 61 votes were needed for election. Santo was 15 votes shy that year.

Minnesota hitting star Tony Oliva was third among the 25 players on the ballot this year with 45 votes, a drop of three. Jim Kaat, on the Veterans ballot for the first time, got 43 votes. New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, a former NL MVP, was fifth with 36 votes, an increase of seven.

Maury Wills was next with 26, followed by Vada Pinson (23), Luis Tiant (20) and Roger Maris (19).

Thurman Munson and old-time pitcher Smoky Joe Wood each received only two votes.

The old Veterans Committee, which met annually, had 15 members in most years and was criticized for cronyism. The Hall changed the system after Bill Mazeroski, a career .260 hitter with a great glove, was elected in 2003.


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1 posted on 03/02/2005 1:27:04 PM PST by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

You mean Pete Rose didn't make it again?.............


2 posted on 03/02/2005 1:28:27 PM PST by Red Badger (The South seceded over refusal to end slavery. Blue states want to secede for the same reason......)
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To: nypokerface

Louis Tiant and Jim Rice get STIFFED again...


3 posted on 03/02/2005 1:28:30 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: nypokerface

Plenty of nominees to the Hall of Shame, however.


4 posted on 03/02/2005 1:28:53 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: nypokerface

That headline is another one of those "Life Imitates The Onion" stories.


5 posted on 03/02/2005 1:29:13 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Red Badger
You mean Pete Rose didn't make it again?.............

I was betting he would.

6 posted on 03/02/2005 1:29:24 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: nypokerface

It's hard to believe Roger Maris has so few votes. People now don't know what a great player he was as well as a class act of a person. Try to rent "61" and you'll realize how great Roger Maris was!


7 posted on 03/02/2005 1:30:56 PM PST by Lucky2 (Go New York Yankees - 2005!)
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To: bikepacker67

Rice isn't eligible for Vets Committee yet....


8 posted on 03/02/2005 1:31:09 PM PST by dakine
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To: dennis1x

title slightly misleading, some were elected to the HOF this year, just not from the separate old timers list.


9 posted on 03/02/2005 1:32:31 PM PST by dennis1x
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To: My2Cents

LOL! I bet he would, too..........


10 posted on 03/02/2005 1:33:51 PM PST by Red Badger (The South seceded over refusal to end slavery. Blue states want to secede for the same reason......)
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To: nypokerface
This Veterans Committee really stinks. Amazing the great players not in the Hall of Fame. I just found out recently that Roger Maris isn't even in the Hall of Fame.
I had read that Maris was never really a favorite of the sports writers and that was one of the big reasons he wasn't voted in many years ago. Now when I see a player of the likes of Gil Hodges and others not in I wonder if they should not overhaul the entire way players get into the Hall of Fame to at least give some of these great players a real chance of getting in. It's just like a lot of things, very subjective.
11 posted on 03/02/2005 1:34:04 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: My2Cents

Hall of Fame has little meaning without Rose....what a vindictive exclusion...For all his failures off the field (and I have never liked him personally) he clearly was a really great ball player..


12 posted on 03/02/2005 1:35:59 PM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: nypokerface

I love it. Baseball has finally become so elite that no players can get into the HoF!


13 posted on 03/02/2005 1:36:01 PM PST by Jagman (Remember, mi nami es Tsunami!)
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To: nypokerface

I got no beef with this. The HOF shouldn't induct people every year "just because" kind of like the NFL does.

While I think many of the guys who fell short this year were really good players, none of them make me forget:

Carlton
Seaver
Ryan
Gibson
Koufax
Feller
Johnson
Spann
Alexander
Cobb
Greenberg
Aaron
Mays
Musial
Ruth
Gehrig
Jackson (Reggie, not shoeless)
Foxx
Williams
DiMaggio (Joe, not Dom)
Carew
Clemente

Just a few names that popped into my head.

I'm all for high standards at the Hall of Fame.


14 posted on 03/02/2005 1:38:03 PM PST by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: nypokerface

Hard to believe that Maris & Hodges aren't in the Hall???

Hodges

18 years in the Majors, with Brooklyn, Los Angeles and New York.
- Hit at least 30 home runs in six years, including five years in a row from 1950 to 1954
- During those years, he hit 40 or more home runs twice
- Had over 100 RBIs each season from 1949 to 1955
- Hit 370 career home runs
- Had a career batting average of .273
- Had a career slugging average of .487
- Played in seven World Series

and
Maris:

12 years in the Majors
Set Baseball's Single Season Home Run Record (61 in 1961)
- 275 Career Home Runs
- Two-time Most Valuable Player in American League (1960 & 1961)
- Led American League in RBI's (1960 & 1961)
- Gold Glove Award Winner (1960)
- Seven World Series (1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1967, 1968)
- Six World Series Home Runs

all this with noooooo steroids!!!


15 posted on 03/02/2005 1:49:12 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: nypokerface

Truth be told......They probably don't have anymore room in the Hall for those plaques and are hoping to get some sort of government grant to expand the Hall... ;-)


16 posted on 03/02/2005 1:56:26 PM PST by b4its2late (This is like deja vu all over again.)
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To: Les_Miserables

I agree. And when you consider the frauds who are currently cheating their way into the record books, the "concensus Hall of Famers," the transformation of MLB into "Total Sham" is almost complete.


17 posted on 03/02/2005 2:23:51 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: nypokerface

Can't believe Ron Santo missed it again! He has numbers that rank him among the best third basemen of all time. He ranks in the top 100 all time in HR's, RBI's, total bases, walks, sacrifice flies. He won 5 straight gold glove awards from 1964 through 1968. He played in 9 All Star games. And can you believe he played with type 2 diabetes his entire career and nobody knew it. Sad state of affairs! I hope he makes it in while he is still alive.


18 posted on 03/02/2005 3:44:41 PM PST by laceybrookesdad (A half truth is a whole lie!)
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To: kellynla

Being manager of the '69 Miracle Mets is another feather in Hodges' cap. Maris was also a superb fielder with an excellent throwing arm. Both Hodges and Maris are deserving of HOF status, as is Santo. How can Bill Mazeroski get in and not these guys?


19 posted on 03/03/2005 11:49:38 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: henkster

No induction weekend this year. The Cooperstown Chamber of Commerce will not be amused.


20 posted on 03/03/2005 1:57:55 PM PST by xp38
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