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Legal question about Terri Schiavo
Personal question | 03/27/05 | Jeffrey Smith

Posted on 03/27/2005 7:07:38 PM PST by jcsmonogram

I have a question for you regarding Terri Schiavo.

I understand that Judge Greer is apparently able to enforce the removal of the feeding tube at Michael Schiavo's request. I'm assuming that he cites the feeding tube as "medical treatment."

But how can she legally be denied ice chips on her lips or water in her mouth? This isn't "medical treatment." She swallows her own saliva, perhaps she could swallow water in small quantities.

I don't know if there's anything here that can help legally, but it's just something my wife and I thought of that didn't make sense to us. It seems that no one - not even Judge Greer or Michael Schiavo - can deny the oral administration of hydration.


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1 posted on 03/27/2005 7:07:38 PM PST by jcsmonogram
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I believe the order said no nutrition or hydration. Did not mention feeling tube. So yes, nothing by mouth.


2 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:14 PM PST by Abby4116
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We sheeple just keep grazing, instead of demanding change. That must be it.


3 posted on 03/27/2005 7:10:05 PM PST by Tax Government (Withhold hydration from the judicial branch of government. Contribute to FR; that may help.)
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When the next power-crazed judge says "no food for you," that's supposed to be taken seriously. Correct? Not.


4 posted on 03/27/2005 7:11:07 PM PST by Tax Government (Withhold hydration from the judicial branch of government. Contribute to FR; that may help.)
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To: jcsmonogram

You would think, given that the Florida Constitution guarantees that no person will be deprived of the right to life based on physical disability, but you'd be wrong because the only law that matters now is the order of a court.


5 posted on 03/27/2005 7:11:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Prepare yourself for industrialized euthanasia)
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To: jcsmonogram

Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.

America is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It's the home of the perverts, rapists and killers.


6 posted on 03/27/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: jcsmonogram

Husband Mikey wants her dead, and the paid off judge is willing to help. So nothing can pass her lips except air (she's lucky to have that).


7 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:21 PM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: Abby4116

Yes, greer doesn't want her being fed by the mouth either and has ordered so. He says to do so might make her choke and die, Nice huh? He has said that the order is that she is going to die so yes, he is ordered that she die and starve by natural feeding an unatural feeding.


8 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:48 PM PST by Halls
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They also denied her communion...

No Freedom of Religion for Terri


9 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:51 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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It seems that no one - not even Judge Greer or Michael Schiavo - can deny the oral administration of hydration.

It seems that they can. And it seems they did. It seems that these people are evil.

10 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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Greer's ruling:
Order
This cause came before the Court for hearing on March 7, 2005 on Respondents’ Emergency Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means after the assisted nutrition and hydration are discontinued. The Court heard the argument of Daniel Gibbs, for the Respondents and of George Felos, for the Petitioner.

Having also reviewed portions of declarations or affidavits of several doctors, which were submitted to the Court by Respondents, it has become clear that the motion is part and parcel of the Respondents’ FLa. R. Civ. P Rule 1.540(b)(5) motion on medical evaluations. The same declarations are being used for both motions and the motion appears to be an alternative pleading to the 1.540(b)(5) motion. Both are asking for an experimental procedure. The Court reasons that if the 1.540(b)(5) motion is granted, there is no need for this motion. If the 1.540(b)(5) motion is denied, the Court should not do indirectly what is has not done directly.

It is therefore
Ordered and adjudged that the Respondents’ Emergency Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means is DENIED.
11 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:15 PM PST by hisname
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The legal question I have is: Is bigamy legal in Florida?

Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman for 10 years (he was only married to Terri for 5). Doesn't that make this woman his common-law wife? If so, that would make him a bigamist.

Terri wouldn't want him to be his guardian would she?

12 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:35 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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It seems that no one - not even Judge Greer or Michael Schiavo - can deny the oral administration of hydration.

They can and they did. The judge issued the order to have her murdered in a tortuous way and nothing or anyone is going to stop them.

13 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:42 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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Don't be silly, she might swallow something.

If you CAN swallow you are not in a PVS, and the Greer Reaper would be proven wrong.

It's just tooooooo risky!!!


14 posted on 03/27/2005 7:15:04 PM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: etcetera
Judge Greer, George Felos, Michael Schiavo... may the fleas of a thousand bubonic plague carrying rats, infest your pubic regions forever or until you rot in hell!
15 posted on 03/27/2005 7:15:10 PM PST by B-Cause (Terri Schiavo is a victim of judicial homicide!)
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Their entire argument is circular. They say she is in a PVS because she requires a feeding tube, and then use guns to keep anyone from giving her liquid or food via mouth. If their first argument were correct, the guns would not be necessary; she would be unable to swallow, and so any atttempt to nourish her that way would fail. They know, however, that such attempts would succeed: hence the guns.


16 posted on 03/27/2005 7:16:19 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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She can't swallow. If you put water in her mouth, it will go into her lungs. A small amount would cause an infection; a larger amount would make her drown.


17 posted on 03/27/2005 7:17:37 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Fantasywriter

Send lawyers, guns, and money!


18 posted on 03/27/2005 7:17:46 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: speekinout
She can't swallow.

She didn't drool. Where did he spit go?

19 posted on 03/27/2005 7:18:35 PM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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dagnabit! HER spit! Where did her spit go?
20 posted on 03/27/2005 7:19:36 PM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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