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Liberals Are Starving Terri - Not Jeb Bush
March 31, 2005 | watchdog_writer

Posted on 03/31/2005 6:53:45 AM PST by watchdog_writer

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To: engrpat

"law" that allows the trumping of natural human rights, is no "law" at all.


21 posted on 03/31/2005 7:22:59 AM PST by Scholastic
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To: kempo
If you want to live in a banana republic pack your bags.

There is no need to pack we are already there. This is what you get when we are told to vote for Republicans as the lesser of two evils. It doesn't work, so forget about the Kennedy, Clinton fear mongering and look at the monstrosity that we have created in our own camp.
22 posted on 03/31/2005 7:24:49 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

BUMP


23 posted on 03/31/2005 7:25:27 AM PST by Scholastic
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To: cripplecreek
Quote:" Dick Morris said: Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) better look for a new line of work. The right is mad at him for not standing in the hospice door."

Uhh Dick, he is term limited anyway and is not running for President. New line of work, hey, I know, he could be a political prognosticator such as yourself. Hell, if he is right about 2% of the time, he will already be leaps and bounds above you Dick Dick. And now its time for the Dick show, where Dick predicts the future after it has already happened. Jeeez.
24 posted on 03/31/2005 7:26:31 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: kempo

Some on FR are so emotionally charged right now that they can't look at the situation in an objective, reasonable manner. They totally ignore the fact that the Prez, Congress, and Guv did all they could to save Terri. They wouldn't be happy unless Florida National Guardsmen or federal agents stormed Terri's hospital.


25 posted on 03/31/2005 7:28:59 AM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: watchdog_writer
"Liberals are starving Terri"

I wish that were true. But Judge Greer is a Republican. So are most of the 11th Circuit Judges who refused to take up the case, thumbing their nose at Congress --- including the ass (Judge Birch) who delivered an arrogant sermon criticizing Congress and the president.

Jeb Bush as governor let Greer mount a mini-insurrection and get away with it. Greer commandeered local cops and ordered them to repel a state agency and Jeb's state police. No consequences for Greer in this act of rebellion. In fact, Jeb had respectful words for the slimy judge in a newspaper interview last week. You can say that only "liberals" made this happen, but the facts say different. you can also say Jeb bears no responsibility, but an act of ommission - by a person in authority - is an act all the same.

26 posted on 03/31/2005 7:29:38 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: watchdog_writer
JEb BUSH had the ability to go in and save Terri, but his political career was more important. He stood by and watched while Terri was DEHYDRATED and STARVED to death. What a coward.

He will NEVER be president.

Will JUDGE GREER EVER be brought to Jusctice????? I think NOT!!!!!!

27 posted on 03/31/2005 7:29:49 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: churchillbuff

Very much AGREED!!!!!!!


28 posted on 03/31/2005 7:30:58 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
The problem is that our legislators have allowed their rightful power to be usurped by the judicial system

Thank you for making my point. The solution to problems like this through the ballot box, not by an elected official running rough shod over another branch of government. Once that happens there is no end, no justice and no basis for a just law.

29 posted on 03/31/2005 7:33:17 AM PST by engrpat
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To: hispanichoosier
They wouldn't be happy unless Florida National Guardsmen or federal agents stormed Terri's hospital.

I would have been happy if they simply changed a couple of words to distinguish food and water from "artificial life support". They had six years to get that done, and they haven't even tried.
30 posted on 03/31/2005 7:33:34 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Republican Governor = Shackled by Law

Yeah, that pesky Law.

SW

31 posted on 03/31/2005 7:33:46 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Balding_Eagle
Quote: "The problem is that our legislators have allowed their rightful power to be usurped by the judicial system. The only real solution here is for the legislators to force the judiciary to relent. Barring that, they need to begin disbanding, and reorganizing the judiciary. Rather than trying to impeach a judge, just eliminate his court, or a complete court system."

Yep, the real problem here is that congress waited till now to exercise its Article III powers. The Republicans have held congress for ten years and have abdicated their Article III responsibilities during that time. At least they fired the first shot in this battle, but it is too late for Terri and this issue was the wrong one to fire the FIRST shot.

Why? Because the MSM has been able to mislead a majority of Americans, most of whom were not paying attention to this matter prior to congress stepping in, and demagogue this issue. The MSM pushed the following facts to achieve the public opinion results it wants: 1) Terri was on life support (read respirator) or in a coma; 2)Terri left a living will; 3) Terri's family was in agreement that she would not want to live (this is a private matter); and 4) Terri received a full judiciary hearing no less than 14 times.

Given those facts, their are few amongst us who would not say that government should but out. (No wonder the poll results are what they are, they are, as usual, loaded.) BUT, the only reason the congress became involved in the first place is the NONE of the above assumptions were even remotely true.

So, here we are. The MSM has used this issue not so much to push a pro-death agenda as to promote a Judicial Supremacy agenda. For example, "you see, this is why the Judiciary should reign supreme, because it protects you dumb voters (we told ya so) from those Jesus freak evangelical Republicans!!!"

Of course, this has been a coordinated effort by the MSM and dems since they lost the election. Namely, they took the exit polling data (the same exit polls that had Kerry winning) and honed in on the "values" responses. But does anyone know what the question was that lead to the response being given that "values" were the most important thing to voters? Does anyone know what those "values" were? The MSM took it and ran with it. Values=Evangelicals=Jesus Freaks=White Male, Pickup Driving Hayseeds=Dangerous. Terri's tragedy has served as a convenient tool for the MSM (a large bunch of tools).

I just hope that the next issue, and there will be a next issue, where the Judicial Branch oversteps its bounds, congress is not afraid to act. What is going on now can't be allowed to stand. The Judicial Branch is simply grabbing all the power and proclaiming itself above the law. . ."holy committee of public safety Batman!!!" In the instant case, a Judge just basically said to Congress, F.U. and the Constitution you rode in on. How long before some Judge starts to decide on our foreign policy? How long before some Judge declares the Constitution Unconstitutional?
32 posted on 03/31/2005 7:37:15 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: ARCADIA

If we elect conservative republicans for the nest 25 to 30 years and they are allowed to appoint conservative judges ( which the democrats have been blocking for the past 5 years ) for the next 25 to 30 years it might make a difference. We have thousands of left wing judges that are ruling this country at this time. We live in a nation of laws not men. This is no banana republic.


33 posted on 03/31/2005 7:37:37 AM PST by kempo
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To: Scholastic
"law" that allows the trumping of natural human rights, is no "law" at all.

Just who will determine what "natural human rights" are? Your concept of a natural law may very well be different than mine or everyone elses. The problem with following a "natural law" is the same with a "living constitution"...it depends on who is doing the reading into the "living" part or the "natural" part.

34 posted on 03/31/2005 7:37:44 AM PST by engrpat
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To: engrpat
The solution to problems like this through the ballot box

When your factory starts producing crap, its time to look at the process; changing a few employees is not going to fix it. The activist judiciary has been with us since long before there was a judge Greer.
35 posted on 03/31/2005 7:37:51 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA
I would have been happy if they simply changed a couple of words to distinguish food and water from "artificial life support". They had six years to get that done, and they haven't even tried.

Great. Then lobby to get the law changed so that this doesn't happen again. Don't deflect the blame from the person that's really culpable, Michael Schiavo, though.
36 posted on 03/31/2005 7:38:13 AM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: ARCADIA

"Who are we going to blame, the Russians?"

If blame is important to you, you should probably lay it on Michael Schiavo.

Michael Frazier


37 posted on 03/31/2005 7:39:05 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Snidely Whiplash
Quote: "Republican Governor = Shackled by Law
Yeah, that pesky Law."

Of course, had it been a dem governor and the situation been reversed, the State National Guard would have been recalled from Iraq.
38 posted on 03/31/2005 7:39:45 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: engrpat
Once that happens there is no end, no justice and no basis for a just law.

I'll trust our founding fathers on this issue. They made provision in the Constituion (Article 3, I think it is)to do just what I outlined.

39 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:35 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Scholastic
law" that allows the trumping of natural human rights, is no "law" at all.

So I assume you are all in favor of a "Living Constitution". And may I ask just whose "natural law" are you going to follow?

40 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:37 AM PST by engrpat
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