Posted on 04/12/2005 11:43:22 AM PDT by missyme
Oh this is so silly! There was no more manly or heroic man who ever lived on this planet than Jesus of Nazarath. Not one man today could ever be as masculine or as brave.
Oh Kayyyyy
I read the first few paragraphs of this and immediately started to wonder how someone could write this stuff and believe it to be true.
I'm speechless.
Very silly. I go to church all the time, my wife rarely goes. I believe that anyone who met us would agree that I am much more masculine than she is.
There has been a story on my mind the last week or so that I remember my dad telling me. Dad told me this story so long ago that I am sure parts are not exactly correct but all-in-all this is how it goes.
My dad was about six or seven when his younger brother Eddie was born. I think the year was 1938, maybe 1937 but--back to what I know. It seems that my grandmother had a very hard time with the birth and she was transferred from the home on the second floor of the little wooden apartment complex that still stands on Wheeler Avenue in Anderson, Indiana just about four blocks from St Marys Church.
By this time several area births took place in the Hospital but it was still a time when many births were still performed at home. Wilma, my grandmother was delivering Eddie in her seventh month and the birth was nearly intolerable for both. A premature baby in the thirties was a baby meant for prayer. The mother went into seizures that started at home and my dad, at six was the first to see this.
Now it is a few days later, my dad was in about 1st or 2nd grade and walked from home on sixth avenue to Saint Marys School and on the way he passed the hospital and could see the window where his mother lay.
At the time of the childbirth the doctor made no promises for the child or the mother and as my dad related to me he put his face near his mother and she said
Jackie-boy, a little bird said youre worrying. I will never ever forget what my dad said, Eddie needs you mom. Six or seven years old and already dad does not want to say I need you mom!.
I dont know how this part of the story came about but Wilma lay in the hospital seriously ill for weeks. A night nurse had a code for my dad that if he saw the vase in the window his mom was still doing okay
but if not, well. For about six weeks dad walked to school every day past his mom window and everyday a vase till finally mom came home with little Eddie.
In this whole story there is now, years later one survivor
Eddie is retired military. Dad is gone
parents all gone and life goes on and on.
There is a strange twist to many fathers, we start out tough but by the time our children are grown it is often our wives handing us the Kleenex. I typed this story and I thought of my dad as the little one and I was an adult standing ready. How I wished I could now comfort him
gone after all these years. Then I realize Ive not moved away from my dad
I am my dad.
I wonder if any other fathers feel the same way?
And here, in a nutshell, is the answer. The woman wants him to change.
"History does not record anywhere a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help."
-Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love - Robert A. Heinlein
Oh baloney! I am a man and I love my church and look forward to every Sunday School class and service. I got almost all the way through the first section before I decided this article was goofy.
Psycho-babble. Liberal speak for "manly men are bad. Embrace tolerance, look to your feminine side" garbage. You should simply take what a man says at face value.
The author is welcome to come to Fort Worth, Texas and visit our congregation. Our 5000 member congregation hosts an annual Mens Retreat that has between 500 - 700 participants over Super Bowl weekend.
Ya think??!?!? Don't get me wrong, but unless we already knew each other outside of the dating realm and both attended the same church to begin with I wouldn't want our "first date" to be church... and even if we did I doubt I would want my first date to be church..
Let me see, first date, I'm going to go into the center of her sphere of influence, meet and be judged by all her friends... while I sit there not knowning anyone and not able to get to know anyone out of respect for the services going on....
This is NOT a good first date.
As to no manly men going to church? I don't know where you get that from... perhaps it is just the church you attend? or perhaps the church you attend has moved so far away from the faith and so far into the gay right/social libertine movement that all men of principle and character want nothing to do with it?
Guess you missed this part of the article:
"Think of Moses and Elijah, David and Daniel, Peter and Paul. They were lions, not lambstakecharge men who risked everything in service to God. They fought valiantly and spilled blood. They spoke their minds and stepped on the toes of religious people. They were true leaders, tough guys who were feared and respected by the community. All of these men had two things in common: they had an intense commitment to God, and they werent what youd call saintly."
Beautiful story
It is true. I would wager than half the men in church would not be there unless their family was there.
Women submitting to their husbands is very much Biblical, but not in such a way that men are king and women are pawns. Men must love and respect their wifes and not treat them as slaves.
Lenin would be proud that you share his disdain for the almighty. Fortunately for you, that mindset wasn't able to catch on beyond a few narcicists and communists.
Kinda interesting. Church does appeal more to the whole "nurturing" side of life, which may turn men off.....
I, for one, can get bored silly at Church. And alot of women do seem to run the place....
I don't know where you get that. I'm Catholic and I don't see that at all. In fact, I see quite a few men at church every week who are there by themselves, me included. The same can be said of Protestants that I know. I have met many, many men , some of whom are good friends, who are devout Protestants and it is not simply because of their family.
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