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Well Endowed Fish Get the Girls
LiveScience.com ^ | 11 May 2005 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 05/11/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

You might think it's grand to be a well endowed fish. After all, some female fish prefer mates with larger sex organs, a new study finds.

But the guys' prowess has a price.

The studs with larger gonopodia, which is what scientists call male fish sex organs, can't swim as fast as their less impressive counterparts, so they're more likely to get eaten by predators.

Bigger is better

The study was done on mosquitofish, which are like guppies. They're only about an inch long. That's body length. For the appendage, we're talking millimeters. Nonetheless, biologist Brian Langerhans of Washington University in St. Louis managed to put a tape on 350 male mosquitofish. Langerhans took pictures of the gonopodia to measure their outlines.

"The organ is quite obvious, even on such small fish," he told LiveScience.

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Data in hand, Langerhans exposed about 50 females, one at a time, to video images of a male of average proportions at one end of an aquarium and an outsized male at the other end.

"They chose the larger one over and over," Langerhans said. "All females had the same preference."

Mosquitofish bear their young live, bypassing the whole egg-in-the-gravel hassle. Among such livebearing fish species, gonopodia range from less than 20 percent of a fish's body length to more than 70 percent. Don't ponder that too long, but trust that it fits into an evolutionary puzzle that spawned this study.

But first, what exactly is a gonopodium?

"In the sense that gonopodia are sperm-transfer organs, they are analogous to a mammal penis," Langerhans explained. "They evolved independently, but they serve the same copulatory function. The gonopodium must be inserted into the female gonopore, and then eject the sperm into the female body, in order to achieve insemination."

Size disadvantage

The study involved mosquitofish from two places, one where there were predators and one without.

"A male with a larger gonopodium has a higher chance of mating, but in a predator environment he has a higher probability of dying," Langerhans said.

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So, for the sake of argument, let's say there are no predators around. What does evolution do?

"We found that in predator-free environments gonopodia size was larger, as there is minimal cost for large genitalia in that environment," Langerhans said. For the record, the sex organs of the predator-free guppies were 15 percent longer, on average.

The results are detailed this week in the online issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Why size matters

There's a larger point to this research. Male genitalia, scientists tell us, come in many shapes and sizes, with more variety than most body parts. These differences are sometimes the best way to distinguish one species from another.

For years, experts have figured that this remarkable diversity in genitalia had to do with sperm competition or some other after-the-act effect. The new study shows that female fish, like women, make some decisions beforehand -- conscious or not -- about the physical dimensions of the fathers of their children.

"Overwhelmingly that choice is made with size being the prize," Langerhans and his colleague report on the little guppies.

So perhaps, the logic goes, differences in male genital shape between populations lead to "reproductive incompatibility," which means two groups would split and become separate species. Langerhans is now looking into this possibility in other creatures.

He also plans to investigate whether a preference for large gonopodia caused male swordtail fish to develop their long, showy tails, which serve about as much everyday purpose as large biceps on an insurance salesman.

"Male ornamentation of the tail fin may have evolved largely due to the pre-existing preference for an elongate structure of a similar shape -- the gonopodium," Langerhans said.


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1 posted on 05/11/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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2 posted on 05/11/2005 12:26:35 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

It's not the size of the wand, it's the power of the magician.


3 posted on 05/11/2005 12:27:47 PM PDT by Samwise (Laura Bush puts the lie to the liberal ideal of what a woman should be.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

one wonders about the mindset that would spend time and dollars measuring the sex organs of animals...


4 posted on 05/11/2005 12:28:17 PM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; pissant
This is a thread that I swore was yours pissant. But, alas, I was wrong.
5 posted on 05/11/2005 12:28:48 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Really, where do we even start with this thread? It really doesn't matter because it's going downhill (I'm sure) by the 5th post.


6 posted on 05/11/2005 12:29:02 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Samwise

It's not the meat, it's the motion.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 12:29:17 PM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: ElkGroveDan
And they called it... Guppy love...
Oh, I guess they'll never know.

-PJ

8 posted on 05/11/2005 12:30:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: camle

Yeah, who funded this "study" anyway? They could have gone down to the local bar on ladies' night and done it for free!


9 posted on 05/11/2005 12:30:48 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Samwise
I often wondered why I couldn't swim as fast as others.
10 posted on 05/11/2005 12:31:04 PM PDT by bikerman
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To: ElkGroveDan
"We found that in predator-free environments gonopodia size was larger, as there is minimal cost for large genitalia in that environment,"

Now, all the little bastards have to do is move to a safer neighborhood.

11 posted on 05/11/2005 12:31:29 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: cjshapi

Nothing fishy about this. Size does matter.


12 posted on 05/11/2005 12:31:30 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: ElkGroveDan

How long 'til there's a "Smiling Bob" post and something about "living large"?


13 posted on 05/11/2005 12:31:39 PM PDT by RayBob (Republicans...we eat our own.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
The studs with larger gonopodia, which is what scientists call male fish sex organs, can't swim as fast as their less impressive counterparts, so they're more likely to get eaten by predators.

So that explains why I'm such a slow runner . . . I keep tripping over it.

14 posted on 05/11/2005 12:32:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

And how is it you are on EVERY sex thread, pissant's or not?!


15 posted on 05/11/2005 12:33:37 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: Alberta's Child
So that explains why I'm such a slow runner . . . I keep tripping over it.

Which is fine unless you are a woman.

16 posted on 05/11/2005 12:34:01 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: camle

Well, were there a link with something useful (like size, rate of growth or meatiness of carp from fish farms, for example) then looking for such possible links would indeed be appropriate expenditure.


17 posted on 05/11/2005 12:35:12 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: ElkGroveDan
After all, some female fish prefer mates with larger sex organs, a new study finds.

In a separate study, researchers found that 93.8% of female fish regularly lie about such preferences...

;-)

18 posted on 05/11/2005 12:35:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Junior

Yeah...and sometimes well endowed girls get the fish!


19 posted on 05/11/2005 12:37:09 PM PDT by cjshapi
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To: mattdono
because it's going downhill

Interesting that you use that term. A fellow Freeper and I have, on occasion, discussed the need for a "Downhill Fast" Ping List for stories just like this. Any volunteers?
20 posted on 05/11/2005 12:37:15 PM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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